Something For XEL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCI5opHrf_8&mode=related&search=

Xel, reading a number of your statements, I can see that you aren't very big on libertarian PRINCIPLES, and that you are buying into utilitarian ideas.  I'd like to take the time to point you in the direction of this little video I found on youtube here...

Pay attention to what he is saying about principles & utilitarianism, as I think this is a crucial difference between the way you think, and the way I think. 

If you and I agree on something, say, the legalization of drugs, but we disagree with each other on WHY drugs should be legalized, there will likely be other ways in which we don't see eye to eye. 

You may also want to hear what he says about regulation of the economy, libertarianism, crime, etc.

Wow, the Libertarians are Socially Liberal? Horseshit, I don't see strong support for the legalization of Marijuana, Strong support for abortion, strong support for gay rights, strong support for abolishing American Imperialism (Yes, it exists, and it doesn't run on laissez-faire, cunts), strong support for fucking anything that could be called "liberal".  Libertarians are just republicans without the hail jesus fervor.  They don't support a "free" or as the republicans call it "decadent" society.

Besides.  I thought that since government is utilitarian, why is it that the tax cuts for the rich have lead to economic growth, while the income disparity has widened and is eliminating the middle class.  If a high tide raises all boats, why is it that the rich are much richer, the poor are much poorer, and the middle class is becoming polarized?  A "free" market will NEVER exist without a global hegemon government, and even then, local sovereignity would require enormous effort to crush.

You bitch about how saying "some taxes are slavery, some aren't", when you won't acknowledge that one nations' "free trade" is anothers' "mercantilism"

Like Xel said, libertarians ignore environmental determinism, which, despite the bleeding hearts who champion and claim the strength of consciousness and the human spirit, continue to ignore SCIENTIFIC evidence that humans behave in systematic, predictable, reactionary, programmed ways.  Consider all the evidence that has pointed towards genetics affecting intelligence.  Consider the evidence of how thought processes in poverty culture are different from those in wealth cultures.

This thread has a little too much "American Dream" in it.  Enjoy the rat race kids.