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Affirmative Action Banned!

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-09 21:25

My state (Michigan) has wisely followed in the foosteps of California and banned racist/sexist affirmative action programs in Michigan, that would have discriminated against people based on nothing but their gender or the color of their skin, all in the name of promoting equality.  

It passed by a pretty wide margin 58% - 42% of the vote.. or, another way of looking at it: 

2,137,574  ---  YES on stopping AA
1,552,459  ---  NO on stopping AA

Hopefully this'll spread like wildfire throughout the rest of the states. 

Name: AC 2006-11-22 21:55

>>75

You are declaring white people guilty of privilege, and claiming that they need to be discriminated against for being more successful.

They are more successful because of the privilege and because of events in history. As to if they are "guilty" of anything or not, is purely subjective I suppose.

But, when we speak of meritocracy and equality then everything should be done to level the "playing field" so to speak. AA disarms the obviously privileged white private sector the ability to play "old boy's club" with a free and democratic society.

Wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action

Affirmative action = preferential treatment based on race.

Institutionalized reverse discrimination.


And again, I ask you what is the problem with this in the face of growing racial disparity. What is the problem with this when someone as equally meritable as some random white dude is given a job? The white dominated private sector shouldn't have the right to create a circumstance where it comes down primarily to skin color. And the only companies that are effected by AA are white-owned companies that discriminate against other races.

Fuck you.  I didn't do anything wrong, and I don't deserve to be discriminated against because I'm white, or because I'm male. 

And fuck you. I didn't do anything wrong either and I don't deserve to be discriminated against because of perpetuating negative cultural memes surrounding blacks and their intelligence. I am and was never a slave, a monkey, a nigger, etc. And the private sector- white owned or not- has no right to discriminate against me if I'm meritable. This is the one instance "your people" are being discriminated against and it seems to me that you just can't handle what other races have had to put up with for the last hundreds of years.

Too fucking bad, I say.

That is not true.  It does many more things than just meddling with other people's property and their property rights.

Like dismantle white privilege, perhaps? If not "just that" then what else? You misunderstand the attack on white privilege as an attack on white people; can you answer me as to why that is? Or will you dodge that question as well?

Whose property is it? Who owns it? Property rights entail the right to both use and disposal as the owner sees fit.  The private sector will slow down and eventually stop discrimination if market forces are allowed to be the deciding factor. Gradually, the market will show people that discrimination is wrong, if we let it.  Market forces punish discriminators.

Like I said before, when it comes to matters of the betterment and furthering equality in a democratic and free society, especially in the face of racial disparity...it doesn't matter what belongs to who. If you prefer racism to merit, then you should move your business to a country that agrees with you.

You say that the market will show people that discrimination is wrong and that the private sector will suddenly grow ethics; and yet you have no plan, policy, factiod, proof or a history that this will be or has ever been the case. Why are you basing your belief on something that you and history can't prove is beyond me.

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