>>225
Like I give a shit. This is not the incarnation of AA this thread is based on- and like I've constantly outlined- this form of AA was created to deter implict racism in hiring practices,
period. You can sit here nitpicking and spell checking all you want- but face facts: You have no proof that AA insures work for unmeritable minor over a meritable white person (white people: your only concern).
So your "it's not fair unmeritable people get ahead" sounds like a bunch of bunk bullshit. The only other argument you can possibly have is one based in what you claim to take no part in: RACISM.
>>226
Are you just completely fucking retarded? Of course hard work is needed for success and you're just straight up 11 kinds of stupid if you thought I was inferring that it wasn't needed.
What I'm saying is that we live in a world where the Quarter Back for the 49'ers can make more money than a Microbiologist. I really wonder how hard the Paris Hilton's and the George W. Bush's of this world worked. You really think these people deserve their "success"?
In all liklihood, you haven't even graduated college yet. You don't know what the fucking hell goes on in the real world and this shows in your quaint little world view. You can have any degree you want, but if you're too fat, too black, too anything-- you just might get passed up for someone else.
America isn't a meritocracy, no one looks at people's "merits". The idea of "merit" can- in the end- be boiled down to pure subjectivity.
What you're not getting is that there is clear difference between the way things
should be and the way they actually are. Discrimination sucks, yeah, but you have to deal with reality on reality's terms here...making it so that no one is ever discriminated against has proven an utter failure. Google "racial disparity" if you don't believe me.
It is merely my hope that the inverse will work. If everyone is a victim of discrimination at some point- then that about as equal as it's gonna get. Part of this- is dismantling white privilege, which no matter what you say, definately exists and has always existed. This is entire argument is about a bunch of white people who still want to be treated like "oh so holy white people" because of the perverse and sick notion that they work harder than any other race.
What is there to refute, really? The defintion of "Hard Work"? The definition of "success"? Of "Merit"? Come on now, Grow up and argue the points or stay the fuck out of the thread.