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Affirmative Action Banned!

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-09 21:25

My state (Michigan) has wisely followed in the foosteps of California and banned racist/sexist affirmative action programs in Michigan, that would have discriminated against people based on nothing but their gender or the color of their skin, all in the name of promoting equality.  

It passed by a pretty wide margin 58% - 42% of the vote.. or, another way of looking at it: 

2,137,574  ---  YES on stopping AA
1,552,459  ---  NO on stopping AA

Hopefully this'll spread like wildfire throughout the rest of the states. 

Name: AC 2006-12-01 18:31

>>178

Pure hogwash. Semantic arguments don't work here. You're asking me to do something that American white culture hasn't done and has never done for a wide variety of minorities in this country. You're confusing what I know to be a variable of the truth- with realistic policies that work in solving a pretty complicated problem.

It doesn't matter what we agree on about an individuals response to stimuli when that stimuli is dictated by people who make/made these very same approximations of which you speak-- and have used them to subjegate minorities. Ever read "Behold, A Pale White Horse"? A bullshit book, no doubt, but a phrase certainly stands out: "It doesn't matter what you believe; THEY believe it so you WILL be affected."

Tell me; is this post your way of conceding? Because "Blacks are just lazy, unambitious...hurf...on the individual level, I mean. :)" is the exact kind of "approximation" you speak of. I mean, come on now, this sound like you haven't thought it out.

Sitting here and placing everything that wrong with "Black Culture" without addressing the hundreds of years of cultural enginnering that went into that is like saying history never happened.

I'm sorry, but it did, and for things to get better again--- there's going to have to be a lot more of Justice if people don't want to listen to logic (racism being a logical fallacy). Justice comes in the form of AA. If you have no specifics as to precisely what "Civil rights enforcement" entails, then AA IS civil rights enforcement. AA in no way effects non-racists or non-racists companies.  You have zero proof that the black being hired over whites are underqualified and you only assume so because they are black and because AA exists. That doesn't seem logical to me, sorry.

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