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Affirmative Action Banned!

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-09 21:25

My state (Michigan) has wisely followed in the foosteps of California and banned racist/sexist affirmative action programs in Michigan, that would have discriminated against people based on nothing but their gender or the color of their skin, all in the name of promoting equality.  

It passed by a pretty wide margin 58% - 42% of the vote.. or, another way of looking at it: 

2,137,574  ---  YES on stopping AA
1,552,459  ---  NO on stopping AA

Hopefully this'll spread like wildfire throughout the rest of the states. 

Name: AC 2006-12-01 15:50

>>174

"Considerring groups to be collective entities is a logical fallacy and is as blunt and pointless as considerring molecules to not exist."

But it still happens! Doesn't really matter if we agree on the logical fallacy of racism- there are people who don't and they affect other people's lives in a "Feedback relationship" as Xel calls it. (Which is what I've been referring to up and down this thread.) AA address those people.

Listen; I'm just going to be frank...the people posting in this thread probably aren't black (well, besides me), probably don't spend alot of time around blacks, can't concievably understand "black culture", hasn't bothered to understand that it's core history irrevocably lies with White America and the cultural decisions White America has made since the abolishment of slavery... and if you suggest such a thing you're accused of not believing in Individualism, Freedom, supporting racism, Etc.

I used to wonder why this is- but then I realized that these are the people spouting off about "reverse discrimination" (talk about your illogical fallacies) and start whining about whites being discriminated against. Is it that you're trying to desperately avoid white guilt? What about the secretly-self hating guilt and hopelessness I've seen other blacks have to deal with? You're saying the whites are losing their jobs because they are white---- ok, I understand that, but the same thing is happening to blacks. And has been happening to them longer and at times more subversively than AA policies. 

Of course, I can look at myself and say: "I'm different from them, though..." --- and I used to truly believe that it was because I was better at 'being an individual'. But then again; I wasn't exposed to what these kids around me are exposed to-- it wasn't even the way I raised--- it came down to pretty much chance encounters and RARE breeds of people that stepped in where society had failed and steered me in the "right direction".

Look: All I'm saying is that "Civil Rights Enforcement" is far too fucking vague for me and it's far too similar to the 'resistant to change' bullshit that we saw before Malcolm X came along. I see no plan of action, no specifics, no meat to "Let's just enforce...." --- It just sounds half serious.

Meanwhile, in my eyes, AA IS "Civil Rights Enforcement" --- the problem is anti-AA whites are delusion in thinking that it revokes their civil rights, when honestly, they have never had and probably never will have a civil right problem in this country. Pretending that AA put you on the same level as blacks is only half-true and it only becomes a problem if you hold your race above everything else.


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