My state (Michigan) has wisely followed in the foosteps of California and banned racist/sexist affirmative action programs in Michigan, that would have discriminated against people based on nothing but their gender or the color of their skin, all in the name of promoting equality.
It passed by a pretty wide margin 58% - 42% of the vote.. or, another way of looking at it:
2,137,574 --- YES on stopping AA
1,552,459 --- NO on stopping AA
Hopefully this'll spread like wildfire throughout the rest of the states.
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AC2006-11-30 21:48
"Contradiction. Lack of effort is due to the individual. I accept that an individual can be tormented by racism into not putting effort into things, but I will not accept that by default someone's race has anything to do with it."
Contradiction? How? How can you say with any certainty that in all instances lack of effort is primarly due to the individual? If you can accept that racism is torment, then you surely realize that no matter what you (a white person) may think about an individuals actions- that his or her's race will come into play- often without them even being cognitively aware of it. And you no one said that 'race is the problem by default'--- I said that they were "contributing factors".
"But it isn't meritable, only a person's abilities are meritable. So meritocracy is the best policy."
According to who? You? Again, you're not getting the simple idea that there are people are there who are non-black and perpetuate these cultural memes to the point where white-skin is preferable and meritable over brown-skin. Of course, meritocracy is the best policy. But what precisely do you think happens when (Again: Due to the history and culture) white skin becomes a "merit"? What should be done in this case? Who should step in?
"Do the maths retard. Quotas don't work. I will remind you that if a racist company must employ 10% non-white workers, needs 10 workers and of the top 10 applicants 2 are non-white, the racist company can discriminate against 1 non-white without penalty. --- All the problems you come up with are either perpetuated by affirmative action or solved by simply increasing civil rights law enforcement and regulation."
Pedantic vaguery. There would no need for affirmative action if whites were discriminated against along with everyone else. AA is not a final solution by any means- but it is a step in the right direction in the government putting a cap on racist sentiments in this country.
You're so fucking stupid that you don't even realize "simply increasing civil rights law enforcement and regulation" hasn't been working. You're trying to simplify something that very complicated. American culture is perverted and sick from the inside-out when it comes to race- particularly when dealing with blacks- and no amount of "enforcement" is going to work. I bet you think the "War on Drugs" and the "War on Terror" are valid as well? You can't have a war on an ideal- you have expose it's ignorance and re-build from scratch. This no easy task--- and while AA is a hard pill to swallow--- it is a step in the right direction.