I'm a Zionist. I believe the struggle for the Jewish people to restablish their native culture and their native homeland is the most important battle in the modern age, truly defining humanity's current difficulties. Everywhere we look in the world we see unnatural nations, built on imperialism and genocide, held together by unnatural cults such as Christianity, Islam, Communism and so on. The USA, Canada, Mexico, the UK, Pakistan, Congo, Indonesia, Australia, China, The Russian Federation, Iraq; they are all impossible compromises that deny the tribes of humanity to rule themselves. But there is another way, a way exemplified by the reunification and the recreation of the Hebrew nation. The Zionists saw that their exile did not need to be permanent; that they could recreate their ancient past in the present day. So they did. They took back the land that had been taken from them, and the nation of Israel rose again after 2000 years in exile. They are an example to all the occupied or exiled tribes of humanity that they can be free. The Zionist dream must be preserved at all costs.
furthermore:
The Jews aren't occupiers. It's the Arabs and Islam that are the occupying culture. If the Palestinians claim precedence through descent from the orginal inhabitants of Judea, then fine - they should start speaking Hebrew, convert back to Judaism or Pheonician paganism maybe, and be glad that their lost brothers have returned to free them from Islamic tyrrany. However if they continue to speak Arabic and practice Islam they cannot honestly be said to be natives - they're Arabs, and as such are merely the cultural relics of the Arab invasions, just as similar populations are in Egypt, Lybia, Morroco, Syria etc. They should move back to their own Zion, the Arab homelands further south.
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Anonymous2006-10-26 0:08
TRIBAL RULE SUCKS - THAT'S NIGGERISH
INDIVIDUALISM OR GTFO
I assume you speak English, then you're already basically English as it is. This is about culture, not genetics. The next step is converting to Anglo-Saxon or Celtic paganism, but that's unfortunately a little less likely in the modern age. Anyway the Celts were "rulers" in much of Italy too before the rise of the Italic tribe of Rome.
I'm Indonesian, and muslim as well, we gonna rape your race until each one of you running away like pigs and hide behind a rock, and we gonna kill and burn you, you swine
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Anonymous2006-10-27 12:13
>>6
"they're Arabs, and as such are merely the cultural relics of the Arab invasions, just as similar populations are in Egypt, Lybia, Morroco, Syria etc. They should move back to their own Zion, the Arab homelands further south."
The point was that whoever doesn't conform with the culture of those who lived there first should be stripped of certain human rights.
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Anonymous2006-10-27 12:14
>>6
It's not nice when someone logically defines the truth about all of your opinions right in front of your face, but you just have to change your opinion or admit you are evil.
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Anonymous2006-10-27 12:15
>>6
Or you can do nothing and look like a ranting extremist in front of everyone. I'm not forcing you to do anything, I don't particularly care.
It's your call.
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Anonymous2006-10-27 12:20
Yes, I am a Zionist. So? I dont see any problem. I embraced my Jewish soul long ago and I am happy together with my boyfriend (who is a cute orthodox rabbi!). We have a fucking lot of friends in and outside of the hard-line ideology and I am pretty slim and good looking.
But thanks anyway asshole. Go and worship your stupid guilt-ridden Jesus shit while I CIRCUMCISE my boyfriend.
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Anonymous2006-10-27 12:21
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I couldn't get no twat from serenity back then. She only wanted dildos in her pussy twat. Big phony bologna dicks. But now she wants this real cock. Come here serenity lets show these assholes how we fuck. Lets show these assholes how we fuck. My sweet sweet serenity.
Fuck an umbilical cord out of your phony asshole, and I'll hang a pig with it, while I impregnate you with my 80 year old pork rind dick. You'll give birth to a dead pig and we'll cut him into pork rinds.
All in pork rinds of god. In a land that speaks only with its eyes. No language, no dildos, no fucking laws! Where the whores can't sell their pussy. Or use their twats to gold dig. A land where us warriors run free with our big dicks out, and our fucking hair wild.
Eat pork rinds, eat dead pigs. Eat pork rinds, eat dead pigs. Eat pork rinds, eat dead pigs. Salt their dead skin and put em in plastic bags. Fuck you, you fucking, farting robots. Suck my dead pig. Suck my dead pig!
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Anonymous2006-10-27 13:38
"Everywhere we look in the world we see unnatural nations, built on imperialism and genocide, held together by unnatural cults such as Christianity, Islam, Communism and so on."
and judaeism is not one of these? afaik judaeism is on part with christianity and islam, both of them being religions.
"They are an example to all the occupied or exiled tribes of humanity that they can be free."
What tribes from what time periods? most areas in the world were at some time inhibited by some sort of tribe, but they mingled up, developed, and became, in the end, nations.
and regarding who occupies what, it's just stupid. Srsly, you got israel in order to make you feel better after the holocaust, and you're doing okay with it, your neighbouring countries don't like you for it, but they aren't real threats to you, what is the problem? that they say it's theirs? well it is an area conceded to your culture/religion/people/whatever, an area gained in a war (whether it used to belong to the jewish people is of no importance), and therefore it's yours.
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Anonymous2006-10-27 15:09
Ridiculous. I remember someone saying something about Jews facing another Holocaust except, this time it'll be warranted. >>1 does not keep me in a state of disbelief when it comes to this prophecy. What else is there to say? Zionism is wrong; and end the end you will pay for the evil you've done.
Just like everybody else.
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Anonymous2006-10-27 15:38
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Anonymous2006-10-29 2:12
The Holocaust did happen. But the only thing that makes me suspicious that it didn't, is the similarity of Nazi retoric to Zionist retoric. Praising a return to ancient religious ways, superiority of a tribal based society, characterizing people who come from another cultural background as relics, and generally purporting that people of one's own "Volk" are more deserving than others...that all sounds like National Socialism to me.
I have never thought of the Jews as anything different from myself. But now reading stuff from people claiming to be Zionists, I realise that (assuming I'm not reading Troll posts and traps) that this "Zionist" viewpoint is something to be very wary of.
it's fairly similar to all other fundamentalist religious views
"our god is the right one, people who believe in other god are not real/good/worthy people"
and in the hierachy of that religion there probably is
"i am more religious than you, god loves me more, i am more worthy of god, therefore you shall do as i say"
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Anonymous2006-10-29 11:42
>>1
So you say ppl should revert to the language & culture of whoever came to that land first? And you're a Zionist? OK, but looking through the Old Testament, the Jews had to do a whole lot of conquering to get that land...
>>18
Also, those "ancient religious ways" are rather fuzzily (if at all) defined, when they're not simply made up to fit the agenda in question.
Besides, both those nations have, at least once (Israel more than once), complained about provocations and then invaded a neigbouring nation. Not sure what to make of that, tho... ;-)
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Anonymous2006-10-29 14:36
The idea that the land of Israel somehow by right belongs to the Jewish people is fucking insane. They weren't even "there first". If one would simply bother to read the Old Testament, the nation of Judea did some pretty underhanded shit to conquer that region. Their army invaded the area and proceeded to purge the land of anyone not of the Jewish faith through systematic terror. Jee, does this story sound familiar at all to any of you?
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Anonymous2006-10-29 14:48
When did G-d said to return to Israel? And shouldn't Jewish people be classified as a religious group? Not ethnic?
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Xel2006-10-29 17:33
>>22 Jews are an ethnic definition. You can be an atheist jew - although that won't get your foreskin back - assuming your parents didn't wake up and smelled the common fucking sense before your birth.
>>21
Everyone did that back then, except only the jews bothered to write it down.
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Anonymous2006-11-02 1:47
And yet the Ashkenazi Jews hate non Ashkenazi Jews and vice versa. I thought Muslims are worse. This is from my Israeli friend.
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Anonymous2006-11-02 5:25
Ashkenazim are made of white supremacism.
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Anonymous2006-11-02 6:48
NAZI JEWS
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Anonymous2006-11-03 15:17
To wit: The two main forms of Judaism are Ashkenazi and Sephardic.
Ashkenazi are the Western Jews; the stereotypical Yiddisch-speaking merchants and wotnot. The Sephardic Jews are Jews that spent the centuries in Arabic countries and therefore have a culture that Ashkenazi Jews seem to find suspiciously Arabic-like. Also they usually have darker skin tone, so I wouldn't be surprised to find racistic undertones as well (I've actually heard stories to this effect).
I guess the palestinian will thank you and Israel for wiping their country off the map, and killing hundreds and thousands of arabs simply because you want to reclaim the land that is lost thousand years ago. O wait, doesn't that mean Africans have the right to claim the lands all over the world..coz all human beings originate from Africa anyways.
I guess jewish feels it's right to restablsih their native land and culture by occuping and destorying the Palestian's native land.
Yeah, but Zionist (flithy rich Zionists) fall into both categories so it all balances out to me still taking exception to Jews, in general.
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Anonymous2006-11-06 1:26
Blame the Jewish enlightenment few hundred years ago. That was the fall of the major Jewish religion and the believers.
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Anonymous2006-11-06 13:35
>>30
You are correct. Historians are finding quite a lot of behavior from the Israeli government and society that marginalizes and alienates Sephardics. They also unfortunately aren't exactly welcomed in Arab circles. Sephardic jews, in other words, are the Muslim equivalent of Palestinians. Everyone hates them.
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Anonymous2006-11-06 19:43
>>1
>I believe the struggle for the Jewish people to restablish their native culture and their native homeland is the most important battle in the modern age
Nobody cares, kill yourself.
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Anonymous2006-11-07 4:08
Get educated, not ed-jew-cated.
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Anonymous2006-11-07 12:08
>>36
That's religion for you. Ashkenazis hate Sephardics cos they're crypto-Arabs / sub-h...err, sub-Jewish / whatever, Moslems hate them cos they're Jews... Also, they're not filthy rich like Ashkenazis (well not all of them, just enough to be troublesome)... Just like Palestinians are kicked around the Arab world cos none of the leaders really want them to be more than PR playthings, Jews hate them cos they have a nasty tendncy to set us up the bomb a whole lot (no argument from me there, tho), American Sieg Halelujah types hate them cos they're Moslems...
...and I hate all the Semitic religions cos all they ever really do is promote intolerance and start wars all over the place. Over here in Europe Christianity did that for centuries until we finally took the hint and put religion in the back seat. Where it belongs.