Feminism

According to the dictionary, feminism is:  "the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes"

For 'economic equality', would you not require a Socialistic government that then redistributes income? Why should we have 'economic equality' among men and women? Men and women should make equal pay for an equal amount of work.  They should not make equal amounts of pay regardless of whether or not they work.

I think it is interesting to note that Friedan herself (the mother of feminism, essentially) was a staunch Marxist. 

http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/50s/friedan-per-horowitz.html

http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2003/1125roberts.html

http://www.wpunj.edu/~newpol/issue35/boucher35.htm

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=1096

http://www.rense.com/general21/bettyfriedan.htm

What of 'social equality'? How will you achieve this 'social equality'? Are you going to ram this agenda down everyone's throat through government force, and social control?

According to webster online, the definition of fascism is:  "a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"

Of particularly important note is the section that reads "economic and social regimentation".  Keeping in mind that feminism demands both economic, and social equality of the sexes, this begs the question:  'how will you attain this 'social and economic equality'?  Through use of the government. 

Political equality is something women in the USA already have.    So what is the purpose behind the feminist movement?

In light of these considerations, I am not a 'feminist.'  I am in favor of equal rights under the law for all people, regardless of sex.  Is this 'feminism'? No.  Not feminism by definition, anyway.

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Okay.  So as said in the first post, the dictionary definition of feminism is "the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes."

Excuse me, but where the fuck do you see "FORCE THEM INTO EQUALITY!" in there? 

Does achieving this equality require the use of government force then, as >>1 suggests? NO.

That is certainly one (and incorrect) way of doing it, but not the ONLY way.  Another way, the liberty compatible way, is simple advocation.  Do you know what advocation means?  It means to encourage and support.

Individualist feminists 'advocate' feminism in the same way I 'advocate' people not being complete and total idiots.  As much as I might encourage and educate them into being an intelligent and rational person, it is still their choice to remain a complete and total idiot.  Just as you can't force someone to be intelligent, you can't force them to treat the sexes equally, but in the mean time you can certainly tell them that they should without making it law.  This is what liberty minded feminism is about, changing society WITHOUT government force.

Amazingly, the first poster had a link to one of these liberty minded feminist groups, Ifeminists.com, but apparently didn't take the time to read what they were about.

>>1 came to find feminism to be anti-liberty by definition simply by his own stupid and narrow thinking.  Don't understand?  Let's try an example.

In the 2nd amendment of the US Constitution, it states that the militia is necessary to the security of a free state.  Necessary?  Oh, that means we MUST have a militia, which means every single person MUST own a gun and train with it regularly whether they want to or not.  But that would require government force, oh no.  I'm in favor of people being able to own guns for themselves if they want, but this is obviously not what being pro-gun is about.  Because there couldn't possibly be any other way of looking at it, I have detemined that being pro-gun is just anti-liberty and fascist bullshit.

Critical thinking.  You have the power.