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Feminism

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-18 20:58

According to the dictionary, feminism is:  "the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes"

For 'economic equality', would you not require a Socialistic government that then redistributes income? Why should we have 'economic equality' among men and women? Men and women should make equal pay for an equal amount of work.  They should not make equal amounts of pay regardless of whether or not they work.

I think it is interesting to note that Friedan herself (the mother of feminism, essentially) was a staunch Marxist. 

http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/50s/friedan-per-horowitz.html

http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2003/1125roberts.html

http://www.wpunj.edu/~newpol/issue35/boucher35.htm

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=1096

http://www.rense.com/general21/bettyfriedan.htm

What of 'social equality'? How will you achieve this 'social equality'? Are you going to ram this agenda down everyone's throat through government force, and social control?

According to webster online, the definition of fascism is:  "a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"

Of particularly important note is the section that reads "economic and social regimentation".  Keeping in mind that feminism demands both economic, and social equality of the sexes, this begs the question:  'how will you attain this 'social and economic equality'?  Through use of the government. 

Political equality is something women in the USA already have.    So what is the purpose behind the feminist movement?

In light of these considerations, I am not a 'feminist.'  I am in favor of equal rights under the law for all people, regardless of sex.  Is this 'feminism'? No.  Not feminism by definition, anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-23 3:41

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"I dunno, I'm but 17 and the upper echelons of feminist thinking and social sciences are undiscovered for me."

You might want to try out the writings of that Marxist Betty Friedan.

"All I know is that I don't approve of feminism just because it is labelled 'feminism',"

Really? It sure seems like it.

"but that things need to be done."

Yes.  Restrictions on business and private action need to be removed entirely.  Employment should be made entirely voluntary.  All minimum wages need to be removed.  All obviously unnecessary laws regarding private transactions and business should be removed, such as laws that force employers to pay employees specific wages, or to pay wages they may not agree with to employees.  We need to restore Capitalism and private property rights.

"Affirmative action - stupid."

I agree.

"Allowing women to prosecute employers if they pay inequally - fuck yes."

Part of your freedom is the right to property.  The right to property entails the right to use and disposal, as you please.  To tell someone they cannot do something with their property if that action does not harm another individual, is violating their right to use and disposal of said property (their rights to property.) A right is a freedom of action.  You are violating said freedom of action when you violate their right to use and disposal of said property as they see fit.  This idea is incompatible with liberty.  Wage and price controls in general are a violation of individual rights, and should be abolished at once. 

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