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World = fight between england and germany

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 9:42

Think about it.

representative democracy and it's multitude of contributers = english
fascism, hegel perverted the idea of freedom from tyranny into freedom from "yourself", thus fascism = german

capitalism, hobbes and adam smith, justice and capitalism, enforcing justice so greed is directed towards self-improvement and industriousness = english
communism, marx (a hegelian) and the mistaken belief that you can expect people not to get greedy and to work for nothing = german

Gentleman, the idea that a gentleman is more masculine and honourable than an uncivilised wretch = england
Noble savage, the romantic idea of the noble savage, that a person more in touch with their emotions and nature will inevitably be more honourable aswell as more muscular than some corrupted decadent machiavellian civilisation dweller = german

assimiliation, expansionism is the spread of ideas and values, you do not need to physically dominate other people, just convince them that your way is preferable = england
conquest, only the dominance of the core of your nation and race is dominance, you cannot physically turn a polack into a german so they must be conquerred = germany

individualism, we are all individuals so politics must acknowledge this fact so that we can effectively work together without the powerful stamping on the faces of those underneath = england
collectivism, the fallacy that since we are better off working together we must ignore the individual's rights in the furtherance of the power of the collective = german

Higher pleasures, (john stuart mill) the purpose of life is not hedonistic, but to learn, explore, understand and contribute, to interact with other sentient beings = england
will to power, (nietzche) the unbacked belief that sentience doesn't exist, you are just an animal and your purpose in life is to be a hedonist = german

people, though people can only physically do so much when it comes to ruling a leader can't do everything, successful rulership depends on the resourcefulness and creativity of the people = england
leaders, the major decisions all happen at the top, so the leader's decisions should have as much weight as possible in order for society to do as much good as possible and people should focus more on efficiently carrying out their duties than new developments = german

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-10 19:03

>Britain was the closest thing to a democracy at this time, banning slavery in 1833, allowing landowners and later all men over the age of 18 to vote, with a free market economy and slowly increasing civil liberties within Britain during the course of the victorian era
That is all good and well but Germany did not even exist then. It was a mere concept.

>I am a free man.
You are not free. You enjoy equal opression than your peers, but you are not free. And even if you were, you cannot simply falsify two philosophers just because. You can choose to follow their teachings or not, you can criticise them but you are in no position to say that they are objectively wrong. 

>Kant was a scientific philosopher not a political philosopher. His works were kept in the upper ranks of german society and never gained popularity amongest the german population.
And you think those people know HEGEL?

>Kant was a scientific philosopher not a political philosopher.
This is incorrect. He was a political philosopher as well. His most famous work beeing the Schrift from Ewigen Frieden.
Read Kant and enlighten yourself

>Spoiler: Countries have populations
Spoiler: Nietzsche and Marx are enjoyed in every country of the world. Nothing about their teachings is inherently german.


>I'm not sure whta you are getting at though, why is this relevant?
ASSIMILATION as opposed to conquest. The British conquered their colonies like any other european nation, mostly buying them or tricking the natives which they then ruled with an iron fist.  This is not Assimilation, this is conquest.


Liberty arose due to the military threat fire-arms gave the ordinary man allowing them to form communities that the military junta had to keep happy
Wow that is really totally simplified. Liberties are not the problem. They have always existed. Roman citizens enjoyed liberties well before firearms were even invented.
The problem has been equality. The french revolution is a direct consequence of this. The solution was a constitutional republic with written law(code civil!) not because kings feared guns.



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