"That's valid. It doesn't justify people just having sex without contraceptives, and using abortion as some sick method of birth control, however."
Since when was abortion used as birth control?
"The fetus is a developing human being, and was invited by its 'host,' as you seem to want to call it. If you want to talk about 'parasites,' lets talk about all these welfare sucking socialist bums living off my labor that mooch off the other more responsible folks in society. There's the real parasites. You liberals love to play tricks with words, referring to human fetuses as 'parasites,' and calling my hunting rifle an 'evil terrorist sniper weapon,' don't you?"
Of course, by denying abortion, you're going to have more children in adoption centers sucking up society's resources. I rofl'd when I read liberal hunting rifle gig. I have no problem with individuals owning guns, not my fucking business. Abortion shouldn't be anyone's business either other the woman's and immediate individuals involved.
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http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sfotinos/Human%20embryo.jpg";
That is a fetus, not an embryo, I've seen that picture on a lot of anti-abortion websites. This picture isn't a valid arguement. In fact, all pictures aren't valid arguements. I could post a picture of a woman suffering from an unwanted pregnancy with emotional disruptions.
This is the embryo stage from weeks 13-23:
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4002/embryowq8.gif Your picture is clearly a fetus.
By the way, where do you get off at berating me and calling me a liberal?
"Starving children? What do you want me to do, give to "christian's children fund" or something? I guess you didn't know anything about these foreign aid organizations and all the awful things they are responsible for.
Maybe you should go dig up the foreign aid threads and enlighten yourself before you mouth off about my lack of support of foreign aid? If you are going to bitch about something, the least you could do is to understand the situation first.
Foreign aid serves to more firmly entrench the oppressive dictators of shitty countries the world over. These countries and people are oppressed and poor largely because of these dictatorships, oppressive governments, and lack of freedom. Anyhow, the vast majority of funds that goes into these organizations goes to fund cushy jobs here at home, to the pockets of wealthy folks like Dick Cheney, and to more firmly entrench the oppressive dictatorships and governments of these foreign nations, not feed starving the starving children that reside in these foreign countries."
Which is why you donate to private charities and not government-funded ones.
"No, if abortion is really murder, it should be handled right now. The 'problems' of the people that are already here, as you say, are largely their own fault anyways, whereas the fetus is entirely innocent, obviously."
The fetus didn't obtain permission from the woman whether or not to be developing inside her. The fetus is only there by her permission. To say that irresponsibility led to a pregnancy is overly redundant. The sperm and ovum didn't ask permission before meeting each other.
Your anti-abortion logic:
Woman < Fetus
Child < Fetus
Fetus < Man
Woman < Man
Woman < Fetus < Man
But probably an insult to both cases.
Woman < Fetus = Man
But Fetus = Man = Funny.
You obviously don't want a resolution that doesn't support your beliefs. Ergo, this is now all pointless. You fail to listen to facts, statistics, and logic from your ideological thumping.