Should Women Make Equal Incomes?

I used to think so.  After a little consideration, however, I notice that men have god knows how many social obligations to do everything for women.  If taken out to eat, it is customary for the MAN to pick up the tab.  When dating, the MAN is supposed to buy her expensive shit, like jewelry, to name one. 

As long as society pressurizes and expects men to wait on them hand and foot, I think the fact that men tend to make higher incomes is justified. 

>>40 w00t, holler and internets.

>>30
Fail because experience tells me otherwise.
>>32
Yep, both sexes play retarded games, that are likely perpetualted in part so companies can continue to sell useless shit. Just glad my wife keeps that stuff to a minimum.
>>35
LOL, unless they DON'T cook every meal. Way to miss the point.

Women seem to prefer men who beat them and are as intelligent as a crushed walnut to men who only hit people who are asking for it and have a steady job and interests.

Let's not forget the 'glass-ceiling' effect placed upon women. No matter how much ass that woman kisses on the ladder she will still never be able to make it to the top because she is a female. Wages/pay should only contribute to the work being done by the employee, not by gender. If a woman works better than the man, then she should be paid more for doing a better job, but alas, that is not the case in most situations. Even if doing a better job than a man she will still get paid less. On average, woman get paid 75% of what men make simply because of biases.

Margaret Thatcher.

>>44
Oh and that doesn't happen.

>>46 No, correct. The western world has a long way to go but that is just exaggeration that anti-feminists love to use right back at the more sensible of us.
>>45 ... was satan without the smarts. Where is the point?

>>47
Margaret Thatcher was the best damn prime minister Britain ever had. I shudder to think what the world would be like without her.

Maybe they get paid less in senior positions in institutions where meritocracy is rife, but at the ground level where people are paid more than they are worth anyway women police officers get paid the same as male police officers etc etc..

Feminism and all the laws and rules it spawned is why I'll never get married and have kids. The white race has failed for allowing this. We'll enjoy getting raped by the majority of Muslims and sandniggers in a few decades because they don't give a fuck about this shit and actually get stuff done instead of debating "gender roles" and other gay things.

>>49 So you won't procreate? Willingly? Good, because I'd normally pay to keep people of these sentiments (assuming you just weren't being a sub-par troll) out of the gene pool.

>>49
Good. One less moron having to spread his seed.
Feminism wouldn't have to exist if the society wasn't so damn patriarchial, sexist, and unequal against women.

Margaret Thatcher was the best damn prime minister Britain ever had.
And until that fake war with Argentina, was extremely unpopular. It's pretty sad when a PM has to resort to an external conflict to prop up their support. You know, the kind of thing fascists and dictators usually do?

Go propaganda, go!

>>44
Actually, most of the reason that women make less money is because such a large amount of money made is by the super rich.  Since the super rich are all men, this makes things look like the average woman make a lot less money than they really do.

>>43
Yeah 90% of them are bitches. 

sorry, i guess i'm missing something, but... since when do women earn money?

the internets is serious business

Let me guess, Xel is a tall blonde Swedish woman who prefers black men.

"Let me guess, Xel is a tall blonde Swedish woman who prefers black men."

You sir, are a complete moron. That's only what a half-brained child would say.

>>58
I was being sarcastic.

NO

>>51

"Feminism wouldn't have to exist if the society wasn't so damn patriarchial, sexist, and unequal against women."

I don't see feminists bitching about men having to pay the tab at meals, dates, or other activities, or in general about the fact that men have to regularly take care of them.  Until I do, fuck feminism.  You seem to want men and women equal - as long as it isn't inconvenient. 

>>38
>>Women and men should pull the same weight, be ready to do the same things at any given time and not get stuck in mores.

Fail. Both genders can pull the same weight by performing their natural tasks. It's more productive that way.

Any man I've ever met that calls themselves a male feminist is merely a manbitch. They should grow the balls to start dominating women again.

And no, I'm not male.

>>62 "And no, I'm not male." Listen, I could, if I sat down and got creative for a while, express my real sentiments about you and your ilk and everything I would do if I adminestered a Gitmo full of you. But, really, I might just say I disagree. I disagree.
>>61 "as long as it isn't inconvenient." Both sexes get a bum deal with the system we have now.

>>63
"Both sexes get a bum deal with the system we have now."

That's debatable, but nonetheless, if you really cared about gender inequality, you would discourage the same gender inequalities against men as you do against women.  This is one great reason why you feminists are so full of shit, and this is why I reject it. 

You are opposed to any gender inequalities that affect WOMEN.  You don't care about the ones that affect men.  If you want equality, real equality, you must address them all, not just your favorites, or what is convenient. 

"That's debatable, but nonetheless, if you really cared about gender inequality, you would discourage the same gender inequalities against men as you do against women.  This is one great reason why you feminists are so full of shit, and this is why I reject it." Of course I/we don't want men to have different roles than men. All this jive about feminists wanting equal pay yet secretly wanting some muscled fuck to pay the tab and protect them is something I understood as shittalk years ago. Also, no American can reject feminism, considering its core is about reaching a society without useless and destructive gender roles, and that would benefit the entire nation. I am perfectly ready to address and dismantle all gender roles, but you inferred what you wanted me to have said. How you could read "Both sexes get a bum deal with the system we have now." as "I am an evil matriarchality-desiring socialist feminist that think women are better than men and that men have all the benefits" is quite sad.  

>>48
Wasn't it Margaret Thatcher who made Britain into police state it is today?

>>66
No,that was Tony Bliar.

>>67
Isn't Tony Blair a liberal? He wasn't the conservative candidate, I think...

>>65
"All this jive about feminists wanting equal pay yet secretly wanting some muscled fuck to pay the tab and protect them is something I understood as shittalk years ago."

It is true though.  They want equal pay but still want the men to handle all the social responsibilities for them. 

>>68
He used to be a liberal, now he seems to have liberal domestic agenda and conservative foreign agenda. If anything it should be the other way around.

>>65
Fuck you, gender roles are a GOOD THING.

>>70
You should note that liberals are not peaceful.  In the United States, the majority of wars we have had over the last century were initiated by democrats, not republicans, and in Vietnam, for example, it took us a republican administration to pull us out. 

>>62
lmao manbitches

>>70
Lol, if you think cameras on the street and goverment surveillance is liberal domestic agenda you're bit messed up. Now word liberal is raped these days, but I couldn't see even American "liberals" supporting Britain like 1984ish zero tolerance police state.

>>74
If you are referring to the sect of liberals I am thinking you are, you may want to call them 'classical liberals' for clarity. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism

>>74
Wrong, you are just looking at the first step of liberalism before they rise you to the boil. Of course liberals aren't going to compare themselves to Fidel Castro and say totalitarianism is a good idea yet, first they will try to ban guns, as they have already done in England, then they will put security cameras everywhere, then they will say that denying police intrusion into your home is acceptable evidence in court and then they will create another police force which is un-criticisable, has power over the police and is out of reach of the local government that is affected by it, as they have already done in England.

>>75
Well, that's only true liberalism in my opnion. I consider most other incarnations as perversions. Social liberalism in my opnion is not liberalism at all. Liberalism is about equal freedom and liberty for everyone, but NOT about making everyone equal otherwise.

>>77
Well, that's only true classical liberalism in my opnion. I consider most other incarnations as perversions. Anti-social liberalism in my opinion is not classical liberalism at all. nti-social liberalism is about sacrificing liberty under the guise of equality.*

fix'd

>>78
sounds like those shitty democrats

>>Should Women Make Equal Incomes?

No.