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Reefer Madness

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-28 23:11

Weed was legal in the US until the 30's when a fearful nation used the drug to scapegoat the blacks and mexicans who were taking jobs during the depression.

Weed was the prefered drug after booze was prohibited, but since that didn't work, the moralist crusaders looked to blame everything on the mexicans. also during the 30's endless propanda was created in order to get a federal ban, omitting facts from crime so that marijuana was shown to be the real cause, and that it was groundlessly accused of being a gateway drug.

The head of the American Medial Association said every accusation and claim about marijuana was false and had no evidence to back them up during the 1937 senate hearings. His testimony was thown out and attacked like republicans attack dissent and it was banned to 'end crime and protect the chidren'.

there you have it, the most harmless plant banned because the southwest wanted to blame he mexicans, only to have every evil attached to it with propaganda. It was the first target that has changed over the years... heavy metal, comic books, and video games.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-28 23:29

fear of immigrants and religious crusaders are the cause of every drug law up until the 40's, then its all religious crudaders

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-28 23:32

>>1
Well, I agree with you that marijuana should be legalized.  I'm still happier with the republicans than the dems though.  If the dems win, they won't legalize pot, and they'll put more unnecessary & harmful bans on something else (firearms), that are just as, if not more unjustified than this initial ban on pot you speak of. 

Also note:  the democratic "solution" to the "drug problem" is the same as the republican solution -- step up funding, and just fight it harder. 

I suppose there's a case to be made for voting for the libertarians, as you then get the best from both worlds. 

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-28 23:32

>>2
Wrong.  There's plenty of religious people who support moderate amounts of legalization, such as legalizing marijuana. 

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-28 23:48

>>4
right, but real religious people don't have political power like the conservative cult

Name: Dr. Stoner 2006-07-29 0:07

Funny. The same lame ass morons that want to ban GM food will regularly ingest highly improved, modified green bud. I love the shit, but I still think it's funny. I used to grow it. We used tons of chemicals and shit. I grew buds as big as avacados with fucking crystals shined in the sun.Shrooms are cool. Acid is mo betta.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-29 0:11

>>5
The "conservative cult" as opposed to who? The religious left who votes for the democrats?

...

Plz.. dem and repub drug policy is essentially the same.  They both want to increase funding, and keep fighting the drug war. 

There's a few people on both sides that are for minor steps to legalization, such as Ron Paul (R-TX), and possibly some other members of the RLC (Republican Liberty Caucus). 

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-29 0:20

>>1
Does your post have any similarity (outside of name) to the book reefer madness? I haven't read it yet... but ye, in terms of arguments and such?

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-29 1:24

>>4
Jah!

Name: Xel 2006-07-29 3:56

>>3 >>7 I think this is true, but I also think this is because of crazy parents who won't vote for parties that don't stand for A/B. Meanwhile, their kids are drinking themselves to death, which is great.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-29 12:52

>>10
Who cares? If their children are killing themselves, that's their problem, not mine.  If they are underage, let the cops handle it, big deal. 

Alcohol is a lot less of a problem in the United States than you think.  There's a hell of a lot more people who use it responsibly for various reasons than there are who use it irresponsibly, and it is not right to take away freedoms like this just because a few people don't know how to take care of themselves. 

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-29 19:07

>>11
Well, when drunk drivers kill sober commuters, people want to prevent that shit.

A friend of mine wants to say "Fuck that, Government shouldn't keep you safe." But I dunno, I really hate irresponsible ppl and sympathize with the victim's family.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-29 19:08

>>11
"Responsible Drinkers", only ones I know are over 40.
Higher legal limit imo. Fucking college hippies.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-29 19:11

>>12 & 13

One size fits all is stupid.  Just punish individuals when they commit crimes.  Step up the punishments and stop being lax about it and people will be more careful, and the rest of us won't lose our freedoms. 

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-29 19:29

>>14
Agreed, US has the most forgiving DUI laws in the world.  San Salvador has an execution penalty for a DUI I believe....

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-29 20:12

>>15
That's a bit ridiculous, but I do support stiffening penalties for drunk driving/dui. 

Just don't encroach on freedom though.  Roads are public property, thus it's fine to make laws regulating whether you can drink or not.  I'm fine with that. 

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-29 22:44

>>14
Maybe in the distant future. We should push for liberty, but this is a democracy and we should remember that people are still going to simply get their governments to pass laws which do nothing to liberty and help society remain orderred such as traffic laws. Hell I agree with traffic laws even though in my utopia people are not prosecuted for speeding when no one is around or driving slightly over the limit 500 metres at 20 miles an hour in non-busy roads. As long as people are reminded how important liberty is no one will let the government to force everyone to have ID cards or anything oppressive like that.

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