Thanks for everyone on my side, even though this is some dumb forum full of trolls these 2 really made me feel quite depressed...
>>30
So all of a sudden you weren't trying to bullshit me? What am I supposed to think of this then?
"Gays don't need to worry about their lives right now."
"However, "the gay problem" is a cultural one- not political."
" Gays get attacked physically because people can attack them verbally and politically, in everyday life and in the media *and then get away with it*. "
"There is no physical war on homosexuals, just a cultural and social one."
I've heard it all before.
EVERYONE'S CULTURE IS BIGOTTED AGAINST YOU
EVERYONE IS PART OF AN ANTI-GAY SOCIETY
EVERYONE IS SUBCONSCIOUSLY PROGRAMMED TO HURT YOU
EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET YOU
EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER HURT YOU HAS DONE IT BECAUSE YOU ARE GAY
EVERYONE EXCEPT US THAT IS!
I really do not need to be patronised, what I need are millions of freedom-loving gun-owning americans who see me as a fellow human being and I have that.
>>31
>>36
So I'm not gay because I believe in the 2nd amendment? That's rich! It's also bigotted and patronising, but you have convinced yourself you can never be bigotted, so I guess there was no point in me pointing that out. Oh and I have the right to marry and adopt, in large part due to my right to bear arms and another large part due to those millions of libertarians I keep talking about.
"I'm simply saying that gays shouldn't ally themselves with people who hate them and consider them social and cultural abominations."
WAAH WAAH WAAH EVERYONE HATES YOU, WE ARE YOUR ONLY HOPE
Seriously this is ridiculous now, you are not even bullying me any more, give it a break.
>>41
" We have official electees spreading lies about the homosexuality-pedophilia link, and there are many who don't even raise an eyebrow."
There is a good reason to change cultural attitudes, but fear-mongerring isn't one of them and most people don't believe everything they read and soak up bullshit. Why must I relinquish one of my human rights out of fear? I don't fear bigots and I don't need you. Besides you don't want me to vote democrat since it would inspire me to start spreading my opinions amongst other democract voters as I express my discontent with the policies of the democrat party that I disagree with.
>>44
There are many intricacies concerning egalitarianism which can all be solved by increasing economic freedom and reducing immigration. Businesses which discriminate based on race instead of merit will automatically lose out as they will be giving superior employees to their competitors. This incentive is lessenned when the skills needed for the job decrease and do not exist in state socialist institutions. We need to increase economic freedom to the point where socialist institutions, such as education and welfare, are only used when absolutely necessary so that the public can concentrate it's democratic power on law enforcement and the military.
To solve the problem that those in the unskilled labour market can be discriminated against with negligible loss of income to the employers, we need to prevent unskilled labourers from working in the country. As a result the cost of unskilled labour will rise, we won't need welfare and the shortage of unskilled labour will increase the incentive for employers not to discriminate.