>>22 "The point is, is that when a woman gets pregnant, she has essentially entered an 'agreement' to harbor the developing being until it is fully born. If she didn't want to enter this agreement, the answer is obvious: use birth control. " You have taken a snapshot of a situation rather than take into account the reasons why unwanted pregnancies crop up. Also, my disrespect of human dignity I seem to express is an attempt to show how the disgust over abortions is a largely aesthetical, knee-jerk issue. Once death has occured it is just any kind of meat, so let's use that effectively as well. I'm not pro-pain, I think there are more constructive solutions to unwanted pregnancies (adopted kids fare well and cesarians are getting progressively safer) but I consider the decisions of the women to be the philosophical superiors here.