"Yes they do. If she hasn't had it, she will eventually... unless you didn't sign some permission slip or something or other." - There's zip, zero, nadda, nothing, no permission slips at school over her pertaining to drugs and the effects they have on pregnancy! Like zomg.
"Yes you are. The woman did something that is obviously and blatantly wrong, and you are trying to twist the perspective to such a degree that you would blame her spouse for actions she committed." - Are you a fucking moron or something? You're the one twisting what I say around in order to make me look that way, not me. I have not tried to blame her spouse, not one bit. I'm just simply saying that if he gave a damn and cared, he'd do something about it like a caring father should. No where have I instigated any blame. Please get things right next time.
"For the child, yes. But the man isn't the one who has to drag her kicking and screaming into a treatment facility, nor is he allowed to." - Nope, he doesn't have to. The only thing that matters is that he actually tried to show some sliver of care and compassion for the unborn kid.
"I see, so because you happen to have been an exception, that invalidates all the scientific data and statistics we have compiled by the CDC (center for disease control) and other government and scientific organizations, right? LOL." - Did I say that it validates it? No. You gotta stop twisting around what I say and letting your assumptions rule over your thought. I was merely saying that problems caused by substance usage isn't all that common. Geez.
"Yeah, because it is men's fault, and has nothing to do with the pregnant bitch sitting over there puffing a marlboro and drinking some beer right?" - He's just at fault for being an uncompassionate person caring less about his unborn kid. Here you are again, liking a woman to a female dog as well. The mother's accountable for her substance usage. And the father is accountable for at least trying to do something to help her. Courts burn men whom don't do anything, not even trying to talk to their spouse. Right at the same moment they burn the woman for her substance usage. If there's to be equal rights for offspring, then there's to be equal responsibility.
"LOL. Yes, and you are for social regimentation and or force (government) to achieve your end. Feminazi/authoritarian/fascist. All accurate terms." - I Lol'd. Hmm. The same applies to you then, for wanting to incarcerate women while pregnant. And wanting to take away their lifestyle choices. Then again, I don't like being a name caller. But this one suits you well: Finger Wagger.
"Its to prevent them from consuming more alcohol and cigs while pregnant. Once they have had the baby (just a few months) they'd be released, and they can smoke/drink themselves to death for all I care." - It still doesn't help much. Treatment options are better, since the woman who's in prison still has residual substances left in her system.
"I'm not denying this. Preventing her from consuming more alcohol and cigarettes while pregnant *might* just also help as well, don't ya think?" - This is where counseling comes into play and having her spouse throw the substances away, couple this with medical treatment, and you'll have a superior regimine.
"I have never said no-treatment, yet you keep bringing this up. *yawn*" - Please make yourself more clear and more descriptive next time.
"LOL. Yeah OK. If that was the case, there would be a huge rise in birth defects equivalent to if all mothers started smoking and drinking following the removal of the regulations that the Bush administration did. Lets see your facts." - My answers were based upon your given environments. One environment mercury-free but with substances, and the other full of mercury and no substances. Also, did you bother looking at that site about mercury? It's not just in the air or water. Mercury is just as bad, or worse than substances. Here's your facts by the way:
http://www.cleartheair.org/proactive/newsroom/release.vtml?id=25340
http://www.ombwatch.org/article/articleview/1959/1/4