Abortion and Women's Rights

Abortion has nothing to do with women's rights.  Murder is not a right. 

"Until you give men legal authority to use force to prevent her from smoking/drinking (which I'm sure you don't want to do, and I don't either), you can't hold him responsible for things *she* is doing because he quite simply can't do shit about it." - He has a mouth, right? He may talk to her and try sway her from her activities. He has a phone, right? He may call a counseling and schedule a session. There are many many things he can do. More than likely, the mother will accept his aid based on the notion that he really cares. It's how relationships work, or don't you know that? However, if he still doesn't do jack squat and ignores it like nothing is happening, he still gets burned by the courts.
"It isn't his responsibility to get his spouse help.  Inaction is not action.  He didn't *do* anything wrong, and thus cannot be held legally accountable, unlike the mother who *actually did* something wrong, and *directly caused harm*." - By not participating and trying to help his spouse in any way possible (being a lazy bum to start out with), he is doing something wrong by not at least trying to help to begin with.
"And what about when the child is grown up and has all sorts of deformities and learning disabilities thanks to her irresponsibility? Then what? Too bad for the kid? He's out on his own? No fucking thanks.  She caused it, and she should have to pay.  That's justice." - I have yet to see a person looking alien-enough with full of deformities and learning disabilities. You're overexaggerating here.
"Right, so if mothers smoke or drink while pregnant, and their children come out deformed, its not *their* fault, its all the fault of the Bush administration right? LOL.  Yeah, don't hold women accountable when they do something irresponsible that fucks up someone elses' life, just blame it all on Bush." - Umm. No where have I mentioned smoking or drinking having to do with the Bush Administration now did I? I only spoke of mercury.
"Thanks to curriculum changes, this kind of thing is now taught in school to educate people about the problems associated with drug use and pregnancy." - There hath been curriculum changes? Maybe to where you are, but not here. The school I went to doesn't teach that, not ever.
"Thus, a mother smoking is making the decision to smoke for her soon to be born child, which is not right.  Further, it has again been scientifically proven how ridiculously harmful this activity is." - Alcohol consumption is by far the most harmful activity. Smoking is the least harmful compared to other substances.
"The fact that you are trying to defend the woman in this case just shows how ridiculously biased you are." - You said that, not me, put mo' words in my mouth please. You have yet to hear what I have to say about the poor unborn fetus, but you will, give it time. I actually care more about the unborn than what you think. So you can stop making assumptions about me. Yes, it does pull at me, but I want to go for something that'll work out for the benefit of both the mother and kid, so they both lead happy lives together. Putting the mother in the slammer just because a drug addiction really shows some people's ignorance to substance usage, and it only causes unwanted stress and waste of resources. I'm thinking of more along the lines of mandated counseling/treatment in place of incarceration. This way, the mother may be treated during pregnancy and thus lower the risk to her unborn, and also, have her and her kid both happily together after birth with a renewed way of life.
"If she cares so little about her kids that she won't stop using drugs while pregnant, I don't really think she would make a great mother anyways, but whatever." - Who's to say she cares so little about her kid? She may be the kindest mother, but have a small substance problem. A lot of mothers, even those whom use substances, actually care about their unborn kid and sought seek help from professionals, but only to be turned down because of their natal status. You show your ignorance when it comes to using substances. It's something that has to be treated and slowly put to an end. It just can't happen right away without causing shock to the mother's body, which may further harm her unborn kid.
"And not obligated to care for her child after the child is 18, and still affected by her stupid decisions.  Here lies the problem.  Compensation is the solution." - She not be obligated to, but that doesn't mean she'll kick her kid out of the house right away when he/she turns 18. The vast majority of parents let their sons/daughters remain living with them, hell, even into their 30's and then some. They still are together as a family and care for each other.
"She doesn't pay child support once the child is disabled and moved out." - See above.
"I'm talking about when the victim is older and moved out." - Yeah, now you do.
"The child's life could be seriously affected by the mother's decisions here, and you clearly don't know a whole lot about FAS or FAE, or the other complications that can come from this sort of irresponsibility." - The child's life is affected by both the mother's and father's decisions.<sacarsm>Yeah, and I dunno much about 'ice babies', 'crack babies', 'meth babies', and other terms that the media over exaggerated during the 70's and 80's.</sacarsm> These problems and the ones said above may all well be curved and negated if we use counseling and other sorts of treatment instead of throwing the mother into the slammer. Because once the mother's in the slammer, the problem is still there, so it doesn't help matters much. Once you use treatment in place of punishment, you treat the unborn child so he/she is at less danger before birth. Treatment after birth may continue to further turn her away from the addiction. Throwing her into the slammer without ever treating her condition before birth is unjust to both the mother and child. You have let the unborn go through the unnecessary rigors of the mother's addiction without treatment, and have furthered the trauma caused by isolating the mother in the slammer away from her kid.