Abortion has nothing to do with women's rights. Murder is not a right.
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Kumori2006-09-09 20:10
"That's wrong. It isn't his responsibility, and he didn't do anything wrong individually." - He still shares responsibility with whatever happens. If he admits he was lazy, let things happen the way they happen and basically has never even tried to help his spouse get the help she needs, he gets burned by the courts.
"I have no issue with treatment laws, but I sure as hell have an issue with not holding the woman responsible. If she smokes/drinks/uses other drugs while pregnant, and the baby comes out deformed/disabled, the woman should have a chunk of her paycheck deducted and given to the victim of her irresponsibility to repair the damage she did." - She's still obligated to care for said child after birth. Her money will be going to the child either way.
"This child could have serious deformities and have a seriously fucked up life because the mother was too much a lazy irresponsible piece of shit to lay off the cigs and beer. In this situation, the -actual- human being that is now here has had its life harmed by the mother's actions. What is a reasonable course of action when someone is harmed in our society by someone else? COMPENSATION. Take money out of her paycheck so that the child can hopefully get by." - See above.
"LOL. Blame the environment!" - Xel does have a point with the environment. I wouldn't be too surprised if a lot more kids develop problems while unborn or after birth ever since the Bush administration cut back regulations on companies that pollute our atmosphere and environment with mercury and other crap.
"Women who smoke don't cause deformities and disabled people, the mercury does!" - It really does. More so thank smoke and alcohol I believe. Depends on the amount of intake.
"Put her to work. She can help pay for it too. Then yeah, I'm happy with this setup." - It still doesn't really solve anything. I'll still be paying for her incarceration, which I don't want to, since it's more expensive than treatment. Without treatment, she'll just remain the way she is without any real understanding of her problem, which is why there is counseling. Also, she'll be separated from her kid, which doesn't help matters.
"Yeah, the kid should just be happy with being a disabled person, it isn't the mother's fault he is in his situation!" - The kid should still be content with life. Retribution and revenge really doesn't put a nice face on American society.
"We wouldn't want to take any compensation money out of the woman's paycheck to help him get by, would we?" - See above, she is still obligated to care for her kid after birth.
"Then she wouldn't have any more money for cigarettes and beer!" - She won't have enough money anyways since she'll be taking care of her kid and paying child support.
"Ok, no jail, -BUT- we do take a nice big chunk of money out of whatever paycheck she gets, and give it to the victim." - See above again. Her money will be going to her kid anyways in the form of food, clothing, toys, child support bills, and other necessities. It's not like a baby understands what money is or what it's for.