Abortion and Women's Rights

Abortion has nothing to do with women's rights.  Murder is not a right. 

"My point is that if unwanted pregnancies occur then the relationship between men and women -and the way we shape them via our prejudicion and mores- obviously needs to change."

The relationship between men and women doesn't need to be changed.  What are you suggesting? I think birth control is the right answer. 


 "Until that happens removing the babies is justified, bith control or not"

Birth control is so easy to use, and just plain accessable, if the woman doesn't want to use it to prevent an abortion, she is just being a bitch and should be forced to have the baby anyway. 

 "Oh yeah, and the politicians you people side with in order to oppress women further are usually the kind who support abstinence programs in high schools and in Africa"

How do my politicians work to oppress women in the USA further?  I don't support abstinence programs, but so what? People are always whining about "women's rights", and "feminism", and I don't see any recent significant invasion of women's rights. 

Granted, in the past, there have indeed been significant invasions of women's rights.  They gained the right to vote in the last century, if I'm not mistaken.  I agree with this.  I am for equal rights under the law for everyone, including women.  If this makes me a bigot or "not for women's rights", well so be it. 

Pointedly, however, there aren't really any to speak of now, so there is really no reason to be bitching about it.