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Abortion and Women's Rights

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-26 22:10

Abortion has nothing to do with women's rights.  Murder is not a right. 

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-03 2:35

well, first of all, the fetus doesn't even get a nervous system till, like, 12 weeks into development (fact check that, i'm not sure, but it's well into it). any sane person would have aborted the fetus by then. if people abort in the right amount of time, the zygote should have only matured a week, maybe even two at the most. at that point, it's not really anything but a group of generic cells just starting to specialise. theoretically those cells could be placed in a liver and become liver cells if conditions were right (esp. for the zygote, which is a pluripotent cell, meaning it can become anything, even itself. that's how we get twins. that's natrual cloning for ya).

the only moral debate i see in this at all are those pretty much cutting up and scooping out fetuses after the second trimester. that shit is wrong. might as well chop off the head as it comes out.

people gotta be responsible first and formost, and nip this shit in the bud before it gets to be a real problem. sorry, but if i throw a seed into a fire, you can't say i just cut down a mighty 100 year old redwood. neither can you say aborting the very beginning stages of life (for anything) means you've extinguished a real human being. if that's the case, sperm and eggs are just a step below a zygote, and should be equally valid. without either there is no zygote, therefore no human, so therefore they must both count. meaning every period and every jerk off is an abomination to god and his creation(well maybe the jerk off thing, but not the period thing :P)

and stop any bullshit about 'you're making the child suffer for your mistake'. sorry, there's no suffering here, cause there's no pain, because there's no nervous system to know pain, let alone a conciousness attached to those nervs.

Pretty much, if you cant live outside the womb, and this is even with a lot of hightech medical equipment, you arent a human and shouldn't be one. not yet at least.

this debate is pretty much over. only the loonies who think life begins at cell division are still up in arms about this.

i seriously wanna see statistics for how many abortions are preformed at what point of the development of the fetus. i bet you any money they're all within at least the first month, with everything else being either a last minute ditch, or complications rising from something like a dad raping his daughter and the girl needs parental consent or something.

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