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Abortion and Women's Rights

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-26 22:10

Abortion has nothing to do with women's rights.  Murder is not a right. 

Name: Xel 2006-09-01 6:18

"Socialized medicine is not freedom to choose what I want." You don't hear Canadians complaining.
"You are still evading the point that the health care market was initially screwed up by people who thought the government should stick its nose into the economy.  You now advocate, as the solution to this problem, complete socialization." Aint advocating jiminy. Soc Sec works -and will work- well and privatization would ruin it and its appliers completely. As for health-care, the current system is run by mercantile laws and it is fucked up. We'll see how it goes in Mass. and Cal.
"I must applaud Bush for at least moving in the direction to reverse this colossal failure of judgement, even if the fix was only a temporary, and likely incremental change towards something better." We'll see about that. Regarding the Infamous Deal, I approve of it on principle but it was poorly executed. It is interesting to see how the worst excesses of left-wing statism usually stems from situations of extreme economic inequality caused by poorly planned capitalism.
"Fail.  It is really as simple as this:  nobody has a *right* to a job.  Employers *do* have rights to their property.  Unless there is a binding contract, they can stop paying you for doing work, and tell you to leave the premises (its their private property) whenever they damn well please." Well I AInt damn ready to damn let an entire damn culture mistreat a damn half of its population damn.
"That 'minute portion' is a portion of a whole so large that that 'minute portion' happens to be around 15,500 *per year*.  Doesn't sound so fucking 'minute' any more, does it?  Sept. 11th was what, 2-3 thousand dead? I forget, something like that.  Well this is over 5 times that sum.  Considering that Sept.11th warranted various bits of legislation to be passed, I think it is *easy* to say that the same should be done for this 15,500, which is *far* from a 'minute' number, unlike 9/11." I wonder how amny women there are in South Dakota...
"I am doing it because I think this is what is right." The road to hell is paved with a) x < 8 b) good intentions c) chair
"The point I would like to make is that since you can't have any liberties without the right to life, that that right is at the base of your imaginary stack of cards, if you see what I mean." LIfe is redundant and useless without the liberties that follow *in time*.
"It is about a transfer of ownership..  if the man is transferring ownership and possession of the semen to the woman, then it is no longer his, and thus the child won't be his either - it would be the woman's.  (Yes, obviously it would be his genes, but that doesn't make it his property, since ownership was transferred via sex, in my view.)" He is transferring diploids, and he is using the egg of the woman to prolong his genes.
"Since it is then the woman's property, what develops of it and of her body is also her property *up until* it becomes a human life, at which point it gains rights to both life and self-ownership... and becomes a seperate entity." And the limit of life is at the point where a unique expression of humanity has developed, which comes kinda late. Since most pro-lifers are retards, unlike you, I'll battle them until I am dead, and will resort to arms to defend my fellow female citizens.




 

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