Abortion has nothing to do with women's rights. Murder is not a right.
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Xel2006-09-01 3:23
"And the liberals' method is to ruin the market's potential and effectiveness until it has to be replaced altogether (health care springs to mind.)" Health care has been around since Tiamat knows when. The US is a mixed economy, meaning that people can choose what they want. Since the health insurance market is as bad on people as the diseases (50 % of bankruptcy appeals were caused by med costs, 75 % of these 50 % were made by people with insurance), sorry for not being Adam Smith up in this clusterfucker.
"Whether it does or it doesn't doesn't matter. Employers have the right to hire or fire whomever they please for whatever reason they please. There's no such thing as a right to a job. Jobs are something given to people by employers, agreed upon by mutual consent, and unless there is some sort of binding contract, can be revoked at ANY time for ANY reason." Well, if a culture makes people less worthy because of their phenotype or natal conditions, that culture may have to be changed through arbitrary means.
"Possession of the semen is being transferred from the man, to the woman. The egg is not being transferred from the woman to the man." The fact that you started with making the holy procedure of consensual procreation of the species into a sort of competition is telling of how extreme one has to go to belittle women here. This is not possesion, here.
"100% of abortion advocates have never had to put up with the experiance of being aborted." First, a minute portion of fetuses "Experience" jack, and 100 % of pro-choicers also happen to have not experienced that.
"You said you weren't an advocate of centrism or moderation. Ha. Well, I would rather be consistent, thanks." There is nothing consistent with having to value one human liberty over another to hang onto an argument. Also, moderation is not centrism. I believe in incremental, steady changes that begin from a stable situation.
"No, because the right to life is more significant than the right to kill fetuses, again, provided we are talking about your hypothetical example, in which it is all or nothing." The system of human liberties are a house of cards, you can't ever remove one and expect things to stay. If this means that I can't tell employers to behave like humans when employing, so be it.
"Men don't accept her egg.. it is the reverse, women are accepting the semen." This is not about what occurs where, it is about cause and effect and as such men are equally responsible.