Abortion has nothing to do with women's rights. Murder is not a right.
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Xel2006-09-01 2:05
"Again, thanks to people screwing around with the economy in the first place. Once the economy gets screwed up enough by excessive regulatory and legislative practices, people advocate sweeping socialization as the obvious solution. No thanks." The conservatives method is to ruin a systems potential and effectiveness until it has to be stripped altogether (Soc Sec springs to mind).
"Are you trying to say that people have a right to the money and offers of other people? No, they don't. That is quite a subversion of the concept of property." Well, there is this idea that market will take away excess gender profiling. I dunno 'bout that.
"Legislating equality is not liberty." Well, as a moderate libertarian I believe lines can be drawn without Stalin winning.
"If it is his baby, and he must help care for it, then she is not allowed to abort it without his consent." Fine, if he's there at conception signing a contract, why not?
" *If* the child is partly the man's responsibility, and it is partly his, then logically abortion is not allowed without the consent of *both* parties involved - *including* the man's." Sure thing, if he promises he'll be there at birth and after the woman can't remove his fetus like *snaps*.
"'Support the carrier'?" Well since the issue has been reduced to a forced, one-or-the-other utlitarian choice the women win by default.
"But women are responsible for -accepting- his fluids." And men are responsible for accepting her egg.