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Abortion and Women's Rights

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-26 22:10

Abortion has nothing to do with women's rights.  Murder is not a right. 

Name: Xel 2006-09-01 1:36

"And you can thank the liberals for fucking up market health care years ago for that." The market has done this. Lately, i.e. LATELY costs on the medicine market has TRIPLED.
"Or you could go back to Canada/China/some stupid socialist country that thinks like you." How much better and cheaper is Canada's healt care than the American's? Oh yeah, the difference is unquantifiable.
"uncompassionate government-loving ones as irresponsible bitches." So if an entire culture disrespects you because of your phenotype your advice is to... Join the army? Live 85 % of a life because you're not suppposed to complain or like government? You have high hopes of humanity, my friend.
"You are attempting to achieve bodily equality via legislation." Basic atanomy? Dude, bodily equality is a must, since bodies must be considered equal if liberty is to be possible.
"Men have no natural consequence to getting a woman pregnant, the woman does.  You are trying to create consequences in the form of legislation.  (Trying to legislate sexual equality.)" Yup, and I would gladly send police officers to destroy a man's liberty if he isn't capable of taking care of his sperm. That's equality.
"Yeah - a baby in *her* body, not his.  It is not the man's responsibility to prevent an unwanted pregnancy from growing within the woman.  It is the *woman's* responsibility to prevent this occurrence in *her* body." Well, his sperm growing in her body, his baby.
"Much to my disdain, we *have* child support laws, so I fail to see how, even if you disagree to me, that you would come to that conclusion of yours." Gender roles are one of the biggest handicaps to a country. I approve of child support laws and I think some libertarians would agree with me.
"What Xel said could be seen as 'might makes right' because he said that since people on the outside world have the upper hand, no matter when life begins, and should thus be allowed to abort or kill as they please - because they are stronger (have the upper hand), and are simply able to." No, by edge I was meaning that whenever life begins the decision to support the carrier will be the correct one.
"No it isn't.  Women should not have the right to murder other human lives.  Men are not responsible for other people's bodies, just like women." Men are responsible for their fluids. Sperm + egg = fetus. A man's sperm should be precious to him and he should carry a condom at all times. 

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