Abortion has nothing to do with women's rights. Murder is not a right.
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Kumori2006-08-31 21:41
"That's a bad thing, yet you still fail to address the fact that they can adopt (the compassionate, responsible solution) rather than gambling with their future children's lives by becoming pregnant while host to a number of diseases and illnesses." - You also fail to realize that the chance of the fetus catching the same 'diseases' is slim. It's also slimmer if the woman has greater access to better pre-natal and post-natal care.
"Women who become pregnant while full of diseases are not 'brave,' they are irresponsible and uncompassionate bitches who would rather jeopardize their children's health, lives, and future, rather than adopting a child or not having children due to selfish desires." - So, it's only the woman that matters, what about the man whom has diseases as well? The Guttmacher Institute says that most malformations and fetal problems are caused from a man whose sperm is infected or dulled down from drugs/alcohol/smoking. So..women with health problems are selfish irresponsible bitches for wanting to raise a family..LMAO.
"It could be any number of things, from weak laws, lack of enforcement, to thinking they won't get caught for breaking them. If you ran a higher risk of getting caught for murder, the murder rate would likely go down.. and it would likely go down *more* if we stiffened the penalties for it." - Lamest answer ever. That doesn't attack the root of the problem. I'll ask again. What causes people to make irresponsible choices?
"What does this have to do with welfare? Nobody has the 'right' to money at the expense of everyone else, against their will. That's all there is to it. Charity is a good thing. Welfare is forced charity. I view it as being no different from stealing." - That still doesn't answer my question when the woman isn't at fault. I have my money taken against my will as well from income tax, local taxes, and many others taxes. Hell, my taxes probably even support the loonies trying to make contraceptives harder to get.
"Nah, I only view the irresponsible and or uncompassionate government-loving ones as irresponsible bitches." - Wha-hey. Then let's kick out all the men and women from Congress and other government jurisdictions, they must love the government.
""That's the exact telling of the sexually repressed world you live in. This repression is also related to exponentially reproduction (Catholics) and is also related to the psychological drive behind rape." Women have equal rights right now, and that is what humans deserve in the form of rights. I have no sympathy for feminists who want more than this. Equal rights for all under the law, and that's it." - No relation to what I have just said.
"That isn't a responsibility that can be associated with men naturally. It is naturally the woman's responsibility to handle this due to basic anatomy - she has a vagina, not a dick - and thus has to worry about taking care of it, not the man. You are attempting to achieve bodily equality via legislation." - I'm talking about when the child is already here. If the man didn't want to become the father of a child and pay child support he wouldn't have acted 'irresponsible.' But responsibilty is a violation against male human rights, right?
Your attitude toward women is entirely fucked up. Referring to women as an 'irresponsible bitch' is very telling of the kind of sexually oppressed world you live in. You are entirely one-sided to this. I see a lot of men that say that women should take responsibilty for their actions and that abortion should be banned. The weird thing is that there's no laws that forces men to take any form of responsibilty for their actions that helped produce that unwanted pregnancy. But responsibilty is a violation against male human rights, right? What about the 'irresponsible' men whose condomless cocked helped create that pregnancy. Men are too busy legislating vaginas and oppressing women whom they say are 'irresponsible' without attacking the other side of the coin and legislating men's 'irresponsible' penises (goes to show the kind of patriarchal sexually oppressed world we are in against women). Mind you, 90% of anti-abortionists are male, but get this, 100% of them will never become pregnant. This is a direct attack on women's bedside manners and not men's. It has everything to do with the fact that she can't reproduce on her own. The man is engaging in a sex where he knows that a baby might be the result. It's a two-way street. As long as you lazy fucks can't even take responsibilty for yourselves and your actions, you have no right to tell others to to take responsibility. Why this is so hard for you to understand? Now this is the part where you say, "But it's the woman's body, so it's her responsibility!" and we start going through the same shit over and over again. Bullshit. Don't start the same damn loop-de-loop again.