Abortion and Women's Rights

Abortion has nothing to do with women's rights.  Murder is not a right. 

"Saying the woman should have the right to kill a live human fetus for taking her nutrients and shitting in her bloodstream is like saying if I invited my friend over to my house, and he ate my food, and took a shit in my bathroom, I should then have the right to kill him."

Irrelevant, it would more equate to this: Someone walked into your house, thrusted a pointed hose into your body, began syphoning/eating off your bodily fluids/blood, and then later took a shit into the tube and had the waste travel into your body.

"No, I mean due to the actions of the woman."

The actions of the man is needed as well in order to create another being. Then man is not exempt from his participation.


"The fetus is not a 'potential' life form."

It sure the hell is.

"Actually, fetuses have all the organs of a normal human being."

Not until later in the third trimester.

"Sure.  Use adequate contraceptives then."

Hard to find adequate contraceptives when conservatives are making it harder and harder to obtain them.

"Underdeveloped doesn't mean nonexistant, and doesn't mean it can't function."

It's actually pretty hard to function right with only half a brain.

"If it has all the organs of a human being inside it, and is essentially a miniature human being, and is alive (not to mention sentient and has feeling and sense)"

Again, not until real late in the third trimester. Which isn't a big deal, since third trimester abortions are extremely rare. Less than 1% of abortions are from the third trimester, which are done under medical reasons.

"it should be murder to kill it"

Killing a potential lifeform isn't murder.

"Kinda like I laughed when you resorted to calling me a 'fascist' because I wanted to make laws against murder."

I'm not the one whom called you a facist. Again, abortion isn't murder.

"If you say "yes it is", let me ask you, would you be ok with aborting a fetus the day before its scheduled, natural birth? Or would this be murder?"

It would be quite alright with me if it was under medical complications (stillborn, the woman having complications to her health, etc) or if it was deformed. It wouldn't be murder to me. But I haven't ever heard of a woman having an abortion the day before term. You shouldn't be worried about "what-if" situations that never happen. That's like how the conservatives were worrying about the HPV vaccine, worrying over idiocy that girls would become sluts, when studies have proven them wrong over and over.

Natural birth, c-section, what does it matter how birth goes? It depends on the woman and her immediate doctor.

"Why do you suppose we have laws against rape? It has nothing to do with the stability of society"

A rape doesn't just affect the woman herself, it also affects her family, her neighbors, and the entire community revolving around her. I believe rape does affect society.

"it would be proper to protect a developing human fetus from a mother wanting to murder it"

That's a very close-minded, rude comment. -tries imagining a woman with a shadowy face and a knife in her hand, stabbing herself in the abdomin to kill her fetus, saying "MURDER I SAY MURDER!- Do you really think that mothers are that selfish? Hell no. Women don't have abortions on a whim, they are well thought out. "A MOTHER WANTS TO "MURDER" HER FETUS OH GNOES AHHH AHHH!" It isn't murder since the fetus is only potential.

Please keep your nose out of women's uteri.