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National Ammo Day!

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>>1
Good resource for intelligent pro-gun voting. 

>>1 As if being the best friend of boomsticks is the most important parameter. Still, this is the kind of site I want, but with more than just a meagre "Lawgivers or GTFO"-focus. Make no mistake, I'm pro-gun, but I think it is really lame that some freedom-loving people accept anti-gay, anti-feminist and/or anti-choice candidates just because they want their guns safe.

>>4
Feminists are female equivalent of chauvinists and there's good reasons to hate them. I'm pro-choice, gay and pro-gun, but I'm not pro-feminist and certainly wouldn't vote feminist ever.

>>1
       I came to the conclusion long ago that there are no anti-gun nuts here at 4chan,  you need to go somewhere else to recruit as you are pretty much preaching to the choir

America -> high crime-rate.

>>4
You don't understand I guess.  In the United States, the libertarians will never win an election.  You can vote for them, but they'll never win.  If you are pro-gun, and serious about it, you have no choice but to accept the "package deal" known as the Republican party, unfortunately. 

Course, you can vote libertarian if you want... (I do) but don't whine when the dems win and pass all kinds of bullshit gun ban laws, and have America bend over and get ass raped by the U.N.

>>4
It is the most important aspect.  Self-defense and gun rights are non-negotiable issues.  They are natural rights all humans are born with.  A government that violates these rights is intolerable. 

Anyhow, if we send a message to the rest of America (including the dems) that we don't want any more of this bullshit gun control, and that we just won't vote for anti-gun candidates anymore, the dems will likely change their party to be pro-gun.  They do want to get elected, after all. 

Take notice of the fact that the democrats have tried to change their image to be more pro-gun recently, such as John Kerry with his hunting episode to try to keep pro-gun people from voting against him in 2004. 

People are starting to realize America is a pro-gun nation, and they are starting to conform to the publics' wishes on this issue.  If we keep up the pressure on this issue, I predict a major shift within the Democratic party. 

>>8

While the libertarians are certainly a minority party right now in the United States, I don't think they will simply never win.  All we need to do is reaffirm a Bill of Rights, individualist, and self-reliant culture in the United States, and the libertarians will gain popularity. 

>>2
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>>8
The reason you will never win an election is because there aren't enough libertarian voters. People who would normally vote libertarian will vote republican as you say because they know their vote goes to waste if they vote libertarian. It would be possible to have a shift in power towards libertarian but while its happening the Dems would snatch up the election and pass sweeping bans on everything from guns to artificial sweeteners.

>>12
http://www.fairvote.org/?page=19

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRV

A vote for the libertarians does send a message to the main parties though. 

>>11
I do, and will buy ammo on national ammo day. 

>>12 lol democraps

>>7
LOL?

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>>18 Those stats are a bit misleading, look at the list of comments below.

No gun control, period.  I don't give a fuck what the crime rate is. 

If people didn't have guns, they'd just use something else anyways. 

The dirty little secret behind gun control is that it's completely illogical. 

If someone really wants to kill someone, and they can't buy a gun, what's stopping them from just using a knife, baseball bat, hammer, pipe, or any other makeshift weapon?

>>20
A gun is a sure killer, with any other weapon, you can just run away.

>>20
Nothing. Reason for gun control is fear. Ultimately it's fear of people rising against goverment. Often masqueraded as public safety measury.

>>21
Yeah right, try to run away from a car. Run away from axe man who invades your home. Besides you can run away from gun too. Average robbers gangbangers are really bad shots.

>>21
Yeah, because you don't have any right to protect and defend your property, home, family, and land, do you? Just run away!

Ha ha ha, self defense rights? What kind of radical conservative are you? We can't have that now...

>>21
Throw it. 

What about bow & arrows?

>>25
Yes, I'm sure all your homies use bows and arrows.

Another point -- Guns are made especially for killing people.  Some other weapons have uses other than that...  some, at least...  like kitchen knives...

>>26
Oh shit you forgot hunting. It's kinda crappy to hunt with just bows and airguns. Anyway guns themselves kill no-one. It's always people who kill people. Typical motives for murder are revenge and  other disputes meaning that they're easily prevented by not being an asshole. Amount of murders that could happen to anyone is very little and about 95% of them can be prevented by having common sense ie. going to slums is stupid idea.

I think we should invest more in defenses, walls, road blocks, infra red sensors, chemical sensors in water supply, metal detectors, camouflaged machine gun nests, motion sensing claymores, rooftop snipers with infra red cameras.

That way people can have guns and if they feel scared they can go somewhere safe.

>>25
Yes.. and guns have uses other than murdering people as well.  Such as protecting yourself, keeping the government out of your face, or just shooting stuff up in the backyard.

>>25
Not exactly. Assault weapons are made especially for killing people, most other guns are just made as shiny metal penis substitutes.

You see 4channers all over the place talking about how much they know about guns (even though most of them get all their "live-fire experience" from Counter-Strike or similar games). Being vehemently pro-gun without a justifiable reason that has any salience to their own life just makes them feel tough, probably compensating for a lack of athletic ability or something. You have to train/study/work in most cases to gain any kind of physical prowess or power amongst most of society. With a gun, you just have to go to Big 5 and buy one along with a box of ammunition, then wait for a week.

Most of these pro-gun types on this board probably live in neighborhoods where gun crime isn't even a problem. They just see Jack Bauer carrying one and think it makes them tough to be in support of owning one, despite the fact that most of them will never need one, much less own one, and if so, ever learn to actually use one correctly (assuming that they have enough money for one at all, even after saving up their allowance).

>>26
With a gun, you're much more likely to kill someone or wound them on an impulse, in a heat of passion.

How is hunting a sport when you use a gun? No animal can run faster than a bullet. It's a joke. Even Ted Nugent uses a bow and arrow for sport hunting, and look at how many guns he has. Now if killing an animal means whether or not you eat that day, then by all means, use one. In that case, consider the gun to be another example, albeit a skewed example, of humans' development of tools to facilitate the gathering of food.

Gun ownership isn't going to go away anytime soon. Why are people so afraid that this right is being threatened? Crying over some stupid law about penis substitutes, how tough does that make you?

>>29
I'm pro-gun, because I don't enjoy trading freedoms for security. We have already done enough that shit. Oh and I do live in area where rural gun-crime is no problem that's benefit of free society. You can choose where to live provided you got money or acquire the property by some other means such as I did through inheritance. I happen to also own several pistols and rifles which I regularly shoot. Been shooting targets, since I was child. I like guns, cause I find them mechanically interesting and fun to shoot. You can never be too prepared to defend yourself either. Oh and Counter-Strike sucks.

>>30
Scary typo, lol@"rural gun crime", well you figure out what I really meant. Shouldn't be hard.

All I have to say is this:  (haven't read the thread lol)

Liberals weaken the 2nd amendment.

Conservatives weaken the 1st, 4th, 8th, 9th, 14th, and 15th.

I'll take the first option.

>>32 You don't have to mention that ou haven't read the thread. Now all the conservatives and faux-libertarians are going to bite into that and not let go. But I'm with you.

>>32
Why choose from lesser evil and greater evil? Why not choose libertarian? If you think your vote is lost, remember that so think thousands of people. If all of those who support libertarian agendas voted for libertarians democraps and republicants would be in bad trouble.

>>32
Why vote for someone who weakens any amendment? What are you? A pussy?

I vote for people, not political affiliation.

>>36
So why vote for someone who weakens an amendment? Don't you like the 2nd amendment?

>>32

I can see where you are going, it's just that I don't think it's realisitic to say that liberals as a whole weaken the 2nd ammendment. The governor of Montana, Brian Schweitzer, is considered a strong supporter of the individual's right to own firearms. Russ Feingold is a bit more mild, but he does believe that the right is an individual right as opposed to a collective right (as many supporters of gun control say). Even Howard Dean is actually not a big fan of gun control - Vermont actually has the most lenient conceiled(sic) carry laws.

>>32
Thing is, the second amendment is more important than all the others. 

>>39
Not really. First is most important, but without second you can't protect your rights for first one. Combination of first and second amendment is inarguable required basis for truly free society. Too bad neither democrats nor republicans truly care for them. Libertarians do, but people lack balls to vote third party.