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Americans Use Firearms to Restore Law!

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-03 21:11

To all those who say that firearms rights will not protect citizens from an abusive government, I should cite the story of Athens, Tennessee. 

In a few small American counties in 1946...

http://www.jpfo.org/athens.htm

The folks at Athens would have made the Framers proud. 

Don't forget it!

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-03 21:20

>>1
Good story! I remember that from that said issue of Guns & Ammo.  They were true Americans of a dying breed. 

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-03 21:55

>>2
Yeah, sadly true Americans are dying. Only Libertarians seem to respect constitution and american way. Democrats want to create banland social democracy and republicans want to create banland police state. Dark times for America.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-04 15:10

Libertarians ftw.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-04 15:23

>>4
gb2 canada

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-04 16:19

>>5
WTF? Canada is not libertarian at all.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-04 17:25

>>6
Exactly..

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-04 17:27

Dictators believe that public order is more important than the rule of law. However, Americans reject this idea.

Yes they do ;)

(lol)

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-04 23:11

>>7
So why go back there?

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-04 23:25

>>8
Ones you're thinking about aren't true Americans. There are few true Americans these days. Redneck christian republicans and whiny liberals are not true Americans. True Americans are freedomloving people. Classical liberals. Sadly they are dying breed and America has been ruled for decades by people who shit on American ideals.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-05 0:03

>>8
That is conservatism, not a dictatorship. Conservatives believe in a stable government above all else, Liberals believe in the preservation of rights above all else.

>>10
Who the fuck are you to decide what a "true" American is? As far as I'm concerned, if you're a citizen of the United States, you're an American. It doesn't matter how drunken, sober, religious, evil, good, liberal, conservative, educated, foreign, nationalistic or whatever you are. Sure they may be shitting on what you consider "American" ideals, even shitting on the ideals of our forefathers, but that doesn't matter. It may suck horribly, but just let it go and enjoy the ride towards our inevitable destruction.

Name: Xel 2006-07-05 2:35

>>11 It's all up to you now. Because you have impregnated the world with $ we'll be holding you alive through seven more crusades on drugs and even an invasion of Iran... You are an empire, where the relationship between all the sectors of society are harmful, restrictive or vitriolic. And you can't change due to the two-party system... The rest of the world can only do damage control, close their eyes and hope for the best, cuz if you lose our economies are going to go bugfuck inside a week.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-05 15:34

>>11
It wouldn't be freedom of speech if we didn't allow people to say we shouldn't have the freedom of speech.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-05 16:16

>>11
Those are "American" ideals, and in that sense, the Classical Liberals were very "American."

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-05 16:54

>>1  Yet another reason we can't let the 2nd Amendment rot in the hands of the liberals. 

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-05 17:02

>>11
I agree, if you consider someone unamerican, just follow the example in >>1 and brutally execute him/her and his/her family with stolen weaponary.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-05 18:16

>>16
So if the government decides to murder a couple million people, the other people in the United States should not take up arms and stop it?

The law and government were obviously corrupt.  They took up arms and reinstated honest government.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-05 20:34

>>17
So if the government decides to murder a couple million people, the other people in the United States should not take up arms and stop it?

Who would they go after?

They took up arms and reinstated honest government.

They didn't take care about the ones that let this go on, they are still around.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-05 20:38

>>18
They reinstated honest government. 

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 1:45

>>18
Move to China asap

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 5:30

You foolish naive liberals are missing the point. Guns are there to prevent the government from becomming genocidal and tyrannic in the first place. THe only thing stopping KKK riders from dominating Athens was the fact that staunch libertarians were ready to fight for other people's rights, partly because of their own moral conscience, but also due to hobbe's law which states that if the government can tread on the rights of 1 man then it can tread on yours too, thus preserving someone elses liberty is your responsiblity aswell.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 6:47

>>21
lol. iraqis had guns. but did they rise up against saddam? no. you fail.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 7:08

>>22
Holy fuck you're stupid. My point was that the public should have guns to prevent tyranny from happenning in the first place, to preserve democracy. To prevent tyranny.

Iraq was a military dictatorship from 1958 to 2003 and a monarchy/colony before that. Saddam came to power in 1979. Iraq was never a democracy to begin with, unless you think a vote like this

Tick 1 box to vote lol
[] I vote for Saddam, he is awesome.
[] I want to be viciously and horrifically tortured to death and for my family to be executed.

is democracy.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 9:33

>>23

lol hilarious

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 13:32

>>22
You sure that Iraqis had guns? I mean they seemed to think Americans as liberators and after that they started fighting against them and themselves in order to create independent Iraq. Sounds like they didn't have guns before or how do you explain why they didn't fight against Saddam? It's not like Saddam was any better than Americans.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 16:00

>>22  Wow, that's one example.  Lets just forget about all the other examples the world over (such as America) that show us how full of shit you really are. 

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 16:19

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5151002.stm

Yay for government oppression and gun control!

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 17:09

>>25
I mean they seemed to think Americans as liberators

They only said so because they didn't want to be tortured or killed by their new dictator.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 17:15

>>28
That wasn't my point read the whole post. If they rose up against Americans and even fight against themselves then why they did't fight against Saddam? Saddam's goverment wasn't their utopia by any means nor did most like it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 18:49

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Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 20:23

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http://bin.4chan.org/k/src/1152226347359.jpg

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 20:41

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5151002.stm

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-07 17:38

>>31
LOL@first link.  Hhaahahahaha. 

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-07 19:58

>>29
Maybe because the only people that were ready to protect their country by using arms liked Saddam?

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-07 20:12

>>31  All the more reason the democrats suck.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-07 21:15

>>34
Maybe you are incredibly stupid and will never understand my point so you should just kill yourself? You have one more chance, get your 50 sleeping pills and a glass of water. Here it is again.

Iraq was a tyranny before Saddam came to power, it has essentially been a tyranny since civilisation first began in that region.
Therefore you cannot cite Saddam's rise to power in Iraq as an example to suggest that arming civilians does not prevent democracies from turning into tyrannies.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-08 18:38

>>38
and that's why gun control sux

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-09 23:19

>>38
That was only one instance.  And, yeah, that's probly true, whoever has more/better guns has a higher likelyhood of winning in the end -  the government, or the people.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-10 2:15

the only really effective form of topplng a dictatorship is with people power. Thats the end of the discussion. Look at the last modern revolution....the fall of the soviet bloc. It was people WITHOUT guns, facing a huge army, that brought about the end. GUNS didnt prevent the rise of the bolsheviks in 1917, even though at the time it was a largely unpopular coup! And most of the civilian populace at the time was armed. Thus guns are not a key factor in toppling dictators, or installing them. It all has to come down to propaganda and what people are willing to believe.
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