"handguns have no legitimate purpose in civilian hands"
--Bitch
Watch out folks, your 2nd amendment rights are under fire.
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Anonymous2006-06-27 20:12
oddly enough
"That's true. While gun control might reduce murder it's so small amount it's not worth it. Murders are already very rare. Also no-one kills because of gun. Removing tool does nothing to problem itself. Also depends on what you mean by right wingers. Libertarians are right wing, but they're probably only party in America that actually cares about constitution."
sums up the pro gun argument pretty well.
some problems I have with the pro gun arguments.
american per capita criminal gun death rate is 20 times higher then englands.
for whatever reason, gun nuts LOVE LOVE LOVE to point out that violence and robbery and murder trends up in england, and down in the US. well two things, it's still 20:1 US : england criminal gun death wise (non criminal gun death it's higher) and now it's trending up in the US too, so stop with that dumb stuff please, it never made sense, now it no longer true.
another point on that... it's 20:1 vs england, it's even higher vs japan. something like 25,000 people are killed with guns in the US, it barely breaks 2 didgits in places where there's strict gun control. I forget if 25000 is gross, or criminal or whatever.
as for "it's a tool. nuclear weapons, napalm, chem/bio weapons, tanks, helicopter gunships, land/sea mines. these are all things that should be given out like condiments at mcdonalds or milk at starbucks. what person in their right mind would nuke hiroshima or nagasaki if they had two nukes, I mean, why not blow up an uninhabited island or something. I'm mixing arguments, but here's the killer.
it turns out guns do kill people, and I don't mean that the confinement of rapidly expanding gasses in a tube propel a slug of metal to a velocity on a trajectory that intersects someone's body.
I mean that in a society where gun ownership is low, there are fewer suicides. guns make suicide fun... apparently, so anyway. guns kill.
as for the constitution.
something like "for the safety of the nation the right for a well regulated militia to bear arms shall not be infringed"
no sane fuck says that that absolutely means that every citizen should be allowed to bear whatever arms he/she wants. so again. when you winge on about "our rights" "our rights" when did you join a well regulated militia might I add?
back in the day, the principle military force was the militia. today it's the army navy and airforce. they have replaced the well regulated militia.
so do the math. is the bill of rights carte blanch for you to carry guns? sorry, but no.
as for "machine guns are never used in crime"
yes it's rare, but it happens. stop lying. you're arguments are shit enough as is.