The Anti-Gun Nuts and what they really want..

http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegislation/Read.aspx?ID=2283#

"handguns have no legitimate purpose in civilian hands"

--Bitch

Watch out folks, your 2nd amendment rights are under fire.

>>120 Don't say "Americans"; you have nothing to support such a generalization. Just say that there needs to be fundamental changes in education and less segregation, that can be agreed on.

>>120
Americans = niggers with glocks

An ideal government balances personal and private responsibility. In the case of security, there should be a civil force (police) and defense of one's own assets. The gun is a means for the citizen to match the criminal in power.

>>122 Ah, that is sufficently specific, I guess. Fucking gangstas. If I have to see more Cris being poured on the floor, watch another "ho" be drooled over by that hare-lipped Jamaican underhuman or another blood-diamond flaunted by some non-talent ad for contraception like Chamillionare... I'm going to hop into a giant Escalade with a bunch of miniguns, Lupe Fiasco and Ann Coulter and just do one single genocidal drive-by from LA to Bronx that won't leave a single fucker with an oversized tee, baggy pants, more than one piece of headgear, diamond teeth, hotpants or any bling standing. We'll take down some jocks and people with tribals if we get bored...

>>124
Don't forget the 'gangsta' wannabes.

The sad thing is, even though you would have made the world a significantly less annoying place in which to live, politicians and mothers would be outraged, and we would 'enjoy' another four presidencies of democrats with their obnoxious gun control and taxes. 

Hell, they might just confiscate all firearms period, at that point.  In their quest to take the guns from all the 'murderers', we'd probly have a bunch more Waco/Ruby Ridge kind of incidents all over the American heartland. 

Stupid BATFE and Bill Clinton. 

Stupid liberals. 

>>1 stinkin u.n. and the gun grabbers

>>124
Aren't those gangstas with guns who shoot cops the epitomy of the "rightous citizen who resists government oppression"
Or is your argument just a tiny bit racist, considering you probably don't know a single fucking "nigger" by name?

>>124
Btw, the use of the word Underhuman is directly tied to "Untermensch", a term Hitler used for Slavs, Jews, Gays, the Mentally ill.

Good fucking game, you lose credibility for being a fucking Neo-Nazi.

>>27
That's ok.
Its absolutely fucking hilarious that people are disputing how the constitution says they can have guns, when the real issue is...Why are Americans so motherfucking violent?

If guns aren't the reason violence is high, what is it?
Social/Cultural factors?

Are you fucking proud to endorse a culture that expounds violence as romantic and beautiful?  Americans fetishize violence, and however you fucking try to justify it, it's goddamn disgusting.

Enjoy your own fucking repulsiveness.

>>130
WTF? America is violent? I though many European countries were much more violent. Sure it's nothing compared to peace of Japan, but American culture doesn't fetishize violence infact it's generally not tolerated outside defensive situations. I guess violent America image cames from movies and fact that big cities like NYC are very unsafe and quite violent places(strangely enough they have restrictive gun control). While they're big, those places still aren't where majority of Americans live.

Britain banned guns. They have more knifings now.

>>129 IN retrospect I apologize. Poor choice of words. I just can't find any ameliorating trait of people who consider non-heterosexuals to be a negative aspect of humanity.
>>131 I think the US is more violent, number-wise. I could be hella wrong though. The important thing is the distribution, considering the blue state ghettos insane murder count.

Japan is mono-racial and mono-cultural, everyone is settled, people rarely move, the most natural and effective form of child rearing (male and female couple raising their own children or adopting) is at high rates with low rates of divorce.

Every country should be like Japan to make the world a better place, anyone who disagrees must be a racist and wants to make everyone in a country a part of their race or destroy a race through miscegenation or something.

>>134 Japan? Gender roles are stagnating into slot A and Slot B, kids are committing suicide to a scary degree and in general you trade a lot for the relative safety of traditionalism.
The second paragraph suggests some sort of irony, but why make the post anyway if you're gonna make everything moot?

>>132
More compared to when, pre-gangsta nigga era?

>>131
America is much more lethally violent than Europe, whereas the cases of assualt are relatively the same, Murders are much more prevalent in the US.
Take a look at 90% of your big syndicated television, then your murder rates, then everything else.

>>133
Its not just the "blue ghetto" states, how many times do I turn on the TV, surf to some network like "Court TV" and I hear about rape+murder in wholesome, smalltown America? I never get the same damn murder, there seems to be no shortage of Americans from all walks of life fucking killing each other.

>>137
I also need to add, that many of these murders are not "domestic disputes" gone bad, but cold-blooded shot/stabbed/strangled in their sleep.

And although I agree that guns deter smalltime criminals, it would likely embolden the determined criminal to plan ahead, arm himself with better weapons and/or accomplices, and steel myself to kill someone if the victim may not cooperate. 

Another issue, how many thefts are committed to get guns?  Because my Stepfather had a case full of fucking guns, and some jackasses broke in and stole them.  I think the possession of a gun only deters crime on that person if they intend to victimize  has the "desired goods" on them.  I laugh everytime I hear a "Stop a burglar" excuse for loaded, unsafed guns at home, becaus e unless you're a paranoid shut-in who can feel disturbances in the force, that gun is worthless to protect you or your property  when you are asleep or not home.  Plus once you do get burglarized, that gun is an easy score to fence.

I guess my point is, the possession of a firearm will never deter all types of crimes that can be committed on you, and that  reducing poverty as an excuse for criminal activity is a better solution than trying to guess when a crime is going to occur and fend it off.

>>138
"becaus e unless you're a paranoid shut-in who can feel disturbances in the force, that gun is worthless to protect you or your property  when you are asleep or not home."

That's why Americans like dogs so much.  They let us know when intruders are approaching, or on our property.  My family has never not had a dog in my life.  Never has someone came up to the house, or gotten very close to it without my dog letting me know well in advance. 

>>137  
That's because the media just chooses to air those stories.  You can ascribe a variety of reasons to this... maybe they 'sell' better, maybe they attract more attention, or maybe the media is just anti-gun.  Who knows? 

A relevent question to ask would be, why does the media not typically report the over 2,000,000/yr defensive uses of firearms in the USA? (Clinton's Justice Dpt. Figures) 

>>139
Yeah and should consider that America is extremely large and diverse country too. No country has so many different people packed in so little area. That ofcourse means lots of crime too.

>>139 Defensive is a very relative term, especially when guns have a tendency to fuck things up something royally.

>>141
So you prefer the victim to suffer instead of the criminal?

>>141
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>>142
He's from Sweden. Quite anti-gun country where citizens virtually have no rights to defend themselves, so it's understandable he might have bit messed up views on America self defense, especially when it involes guns. Allowing people to defend themselves with deadly force has been proved to stop about million or so crimes per year in America. In most of self defense situations no-one is harmed and no shot is fired. Only negative thing about allowing such defense is that it can cause accidents when some paranoid guy shoots his friend when he comes to visit in night as he though it was burglar. Anyway rarely people shoot without warning and such incidents can be totally prevented by having some good manners as in informing that you're coming to visit.

>>144
Well put.  Firearms rule.  It's a no-compromise issue.  I don't vote for candidates who don't support the 2nd amendment. 

>>144 As long as it has been proven. My problem was that the word defensive is very relative to the situation. Chill. America's problem isn't the guns, it's the violence, anyway.

>>139
"That's because the media just chooses to air those stories.  You can ascribe a variety of reasons to this... maybe they 'sell' better, maybe they attract more attention, or maybe the media is just anti-gun.  Who knows? "

4chan should start its own news network.

>>147
You made sense until you wrote "4chan should start its own news network.". I'm not so sure whether to take the beginning of your post seriously now..

>>146
There is a lot of violence in America down South because the blacks/whites/mexican illegals get into brawls/fights and often end up killing each other. 

While it is likely a small portion of national violence as a whole, it's not something to be simply overlooked.  Stronger border control would help. 

>>148
"4chan should start its own news network."

That quote was the only thing he actually said.  Everything else was quoted from another poster. 

>>146

"As long as it has been proven. My problem was that the word defensive is very relative to the situation. Chill. America's problem isn't the guns, it's the violence, anyway."

Violence is the problem?

The solution: 

http://dis.4chan.org/read/newpol/1151607275/l40

>>1

The end result if the anti-gun nuts get their way: 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5151002.stm

>>152 aka the democrats