Govt Health Care

Tax supported national health care programs are a really horrible idea..

Why should responsible citizens who eat right, exercise, and take care of themselves have to bear the same burden of the national bill as those who smoke, drink, and eat like shit?

The beauty of the free enterprise system and a free market, is that people's actions affect THEM.  Having the community foot the bill for people's health care is a departure from a society with a healthy respect for individual accountability.

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You're a fucking idiot and you don't understand Hobbes or Rousseau at all.

Hobbes attempted to understand actual influences on people and how to capitalise on what makes people do good. It was revolutionary because usually philosophers just said, the world would be a better place if people were more like this, rather than actually trying to find ways of getting people to act more responsibly.

You are certainly not a Hobbet, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE ARE THE SAME THING, this is the central tenet of democracy. When tax was raised in world war 2 to fund the war effort, no economic freedom was lost, no capitalists claimed that it was a terribly wrong thing to do, it HAD to be done to preserve justice and thus preserve liberty. Having a nazi jack boot stamp on your face isn't a very just system.

Get with reality!

Rousseau's ideas didn't work, the French revolution put a more hostile tyrant into power than the previous tyrant. He was also French, which is probably why you obsess over him so much (yes, I am implying you are a homosexual).