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You can't have welfare and "true freedom." If you like "true freedom," and those true freedom loving men you speak of, there is no compromise to be made on issues like welfare and social security. If you are really pro-freedom, support an individuals right to choose--including to not pay for welfare, and to opt out of Social Security if they want.
Anyways, Social Security has been perverted and turned into a form of National ID. Many famous people have warned that if Fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the guise of socialism...