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Racial Responsibility? What the Fuck?

Name: Vrendi 2006-04-23 13:49

O.k., I am recapping off of my last thread and the other new threads dealing with such subjects [in euphemism] as the 'stereotypical universal B.O. of Arab peoples' and '"What If" Slavery of Blacks was Reinstated as a Legal Institution' and there seems to be some reoccuring themes in the [il]logic of those who argue for the supremacy/pride/nationalism/genocide/subjugation/etc. of various races on all sides...

 [...I've seen forums in which it has literally turned into a White vs. Black vs. Yellow debate in which the racist Whites accuse ALL Blacks of inferiority and universal problem-making, the racist Blacks accuse ALL Whites of universally instituted racism and holding them back and the racist Yellows accuse the Whites AND Blacks of genetically objective inferiority [see: Wikipedia article on 'Race and Intelligence'] and themselves of being the true superior peoples of humanity... Egh, at least to me, all of these people just seem likepeople needing a lesson in objectivity playing out old evolutionarily primate neuro-script under the guise of objectivity and 'intellectualism'...]

...of this conflict. One of these themes is the theory that because a person is of a certain skin color, they are instantly and undeniably universally responsible AND A PART OF the actions of other people of that same skin color, whether positive or negative. Some of the arguments I've seen from various people who spout this 'Racial Responsibility' as if it was as absolute and irrefutable as the loads of other ignorance they consider true are...

From Racist Whites = "We Anglo-Saxxons have practically carried the Western World, European AND American on our backs. Economic, Scientific, Philosophic, Literary... all us. We have the Magna Carta. Shakespeare. Quantum Physics, the Constitution... all of it. All these inferior races have... what? Nothing." Analysis: So, based upon this logic of ability based on race, you're able to  recite all of Shakespeare's sonnets and plays, explain the structure and significance of Iambic Pentameter, explain the full spectrum of mathematic, physical and theoretical principles surrounding quantum mechanics and apparently do anything that anyone who's white has ever done... AND YOU WERE THERE AT THE MAGNA CARTA, TOO? WOW!

From Racist Blacks = Usually there is a mentioning of how their musical traditions have been stolen by Whites. Everything from original tribal beats to original Rock&Roll to Raggae to Funk to House to Disco to Jazz has been co-opted... Unh-huh... Same analysis, write and perform a song of the genres mentioned here based upon your obvious ability to do so as a black person and THEN talk to me.

You get my point people.

Discuss... rationally, please.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-06 7:00

1."Ah, but neither do whites. You handed over the keys with "all men were created equal""

No. All men aren't created equal. There were political reasons for writing that. Read the preamble to the consitution. Then, read up on crazy French liberalism in that period, and how much we desperately wanted/needed their help.

"Tell me something, were you for or against the creation of Israel?"

I don't really care about Israel. I just want to stop fighting wars for that twisted country. I don't want to send any more money towards their holocaust museums. I don't want to give them more free cash so that their backwards economy doesn't flop over. I don't want to indirectly help them with their drug and slave trade. I don't want to give them weapons to kill the Palestinians anymore. Other than that, it's really none of my business what they do. However, Israel, like most jewish people and jewish organizations, doesn't know when to just leave things well enough alone. So, I've of the opinion that western civilization is going to be at war with Israel eventually. And we'll win. Handily. It will not be the first time that jews have taken on far more than they could handle, and ran into a fight when they didn't have a dog in the fight in the first place. They simply can't control themselves. They've never been able to.

2. It is not nebulous. Read again. Nation - Culture - Ethnicity, - Race - are related but not the same thing. I laid things out in pretty certain terms. Oh yes, I know quite a few Britons, Americans, French, Germans, Swedes, Ukrainians, and Russians that consider themselves white. In fact, they're white nationalists and they totally agree that we should work together and that we have a shared racial and cultural bond. Sorry, I guess we left you our of the loop. Too bad, huh?

3. Democracy? Where? Republics aren't democracies, and if you want to take a good hard look at progress in a Republic, look at good ol' Mexicano Lovin' El Presidente Bush or look at the history of the Roman Empire.

That equality thing.. Huh.. Here's a good quote for you.

Richard Berkeley Cotten: Freedom is not free; free men are not equal; and equal men are not free.

I don't believe people are equal. Even better, I KNOW people aren't equal. Sociologists don't believe people are equal. Geneticists know that people aren't equal. Physicists know that people aren't equal. Anthropologists don't believe people are equal. Really, anybody with two brain cells to rub together knows that there are similarities between things, but equality is an abstract concept that you use in a priori constructs like math, not something that 'exists.' If you want some sort of equality from me, then you'll get equality of opportunity. Which, ironically, was what this silly capitalistic system was founded on. So, before you say that we here in the U.S. believe in equality, then take a good hard look at what we do and think pragmatically. We believe in a system that is based on people being unequal and some people, unequal people, being able to perform better than others or do things that other people simply can't do, for various reasons. So, please, humor me. Look a little deeper than your own rhetoric for a little while.

Next. Why were Americans so successful.. Hmm... Probably for the same reason that Russia and Europe were really successful. As if we aren't the only successful white country? Seriously. We also have some pretty nice natural resources and no wars to worry about. That helps too. Sorry, we're not the first republic and politics is still politics as usual. Stalin preached freedom when he had the collar around everybody's neck. Please.

3. The world is not growing smaller; I'm afraid. Only, non-whites can't seem to control themselves when it comes to not having children. White people don't seem to overcrowd themselves too much, because they just tend to replenish their population. Black people have a bazillion children. They starve to death, in resource rich Africa, with distended bellies because they control themselves sexually or, heck, even 'appetite'tically. You should really read up on the huge slaughters and one day feasts some of these tribes have. They could eat for a year, and they waste it in a day. And then they starve! Whee! Could this be because of their lack of foresight, and not because of oppressive white privelege on the other side of the world? Who knows? Wait, sorry, I forgot. It's our fault everybody hasn't got their act together, because WE got our act together. Wait.. No... That doesn't make any sense. Oh well, it didn't have to in the first place. Whiteness is universal evil.

Mexico is popping out babies like a baby making machine'. La Raza is happily calling anybody who holds up an American flag to their protest a racist, while they contend that the entire north american continent is the property of Mexican people, and that we should all move back to Europe. They've picked up too many tricks from the jews... Screaming, you're the invaders, while invading. Here's how you spell hypocrisy. H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y

So, they starve and eventually they say to yourselves, "Man! It's not fair! Those white people have plenty of resources, and they aren't overcrowded. It's not because they didn't overpopulate their areas by having a bazillion children; it's because of invisible white privelge that white people have, in their own isolated countries!!" So, bazillions of third worlders HAVE to move to our countrie because white countries tend to be really nice, and then our country becomes an overpopulated third world (just like where they came from) country and white people  pop out of existence, because somebody else comes here and has more babies than we do, by several orders of magnitude! Eventually, this leads to the genocide of our entire race, heritage, and culture. Well, I guess that means that the 'race' problem is solved. Strangely enough, this sequence of events is starting to concern some white people, who have this (I know, I know) insane notion that they are white and might share some common interest here. I know, insane! But, somehow, we keep on coming to this conclusion naturally? Maybe it's genetic? I mean I can't really help feeling empathy for the Boers in South Africa, when thousands lost their farms or were raped or tortured to death in the most horrible ways by a bunch of (yes, I'm racist) complete savages. I even felt more sympathy when I got the chance to listen to a heartfelt speech from a woman that barely managed to escape that mess with her sanity, who is very very white and can speak three languages fluently.

Oh sorry. Forgot it again. They deserved it didn't they? They were white. Lived there for longer than my country has existed, but they too were evil invaders. That's why the invasion and torture of them, was ultimate justice, especially when it was done by a people that didn't even inhabit that part of Africa until they overpopulated themselves and moved south, and were a people, aggressive, cruel, brutal, warlike, and fantastically superstitious (even believing that the only way to cure aids was to literally rape white babies. Yes, rape babies, and possibly toddlers.)


 
Getting back to my point, for some odd reason, white people seem to be preoccupied with other things than filling every inch of this world with human flesh.

And, viola! Immigration! The hostile immigrants from everywhere to muslim-land to mexico overcrowd us, like they overcrowded themselves! So, we get to suffer as well. We all get to starve, and live in incredible conflict and violence over scare resources... Together! Ahh, the bloody brotherhood of humanity and allowing ANYONE into your community, in ANY number! Even if you have absolutely nothing in common, and you didn't really want immigrants from ANYWHERE in the first place.

Whee!

Look, watch this video. It's been posted quite a few times. Watch it all the way through.

http//video.google.com/...

If it doesn't clarify things for you a little, then I suggest you go to http://www.nationalvanguard.org/

If that does't clarify things for you a little, then I suggest that you go to http://www.stormfront.org/ and yell and scream in the opposing views section. I'm sure your inexhaustible energy will go to fantastic use there.

As for me, I'm going to take a short break. Have fun, I'm sure you'll type the same arguments over and over again until your fingers bleed.


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