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Racial Responsibility? What the Fuck?

Name: Vrendi 2006-04-23 13:49

O.k., I am recapping off of my last thread and the other new threads dealing with such subjects [in euphemism] as the 'stereotypical universal B.O. of Arab peoples' and '"What If" Slavery of Blacks was Reinstated as a Legal Institution' and there seems to be some reoccuring themes in the [il]logic of those who argue for the supremacy/pride/nationalism/genocide/subjugation/etc. of various races on all sides...

 [...I've seen forums in which it has literally turned into a White vs. Black vs. Yellow debate in which the racist Whites accuse ALL Blacks of inferiority and universal problem-making, the racist Blacks accuse ALL Whites of universally instituted racism and holding them back and the racist Yellows accuse the Whites AND Blacks of genetically objective inferiority [see: Wikipedia article on 'Race and Intelligence'] and themselves of being the true superior peoples of humanity... Egh, at least to me, all of these people just seem likepeople needing a lesson in objectivity playing out old evolutionarily primate neuro-script under the guise of objectivity and 'intellectualism'...]

...of this conflict. One of these themes is the theory that because a person is of a certain skin color, they are instantly and undeniably universally responsible AND A PART OF the actions of other people of that same skin color, whether positive or negative. Some of the arguments I've seen from various people who spout this 'Racial Responsibility' as if it was as absolute and irrefutable as the loads of other ignorance they consider true are...

From Racist Whites = "We Anglo-Saxxons have practically carried the Western World, European AND American on our backs. Economic, Scientific, Philosophic, Literary... all us. We have the Magna Carta. Shakespeare. Quantum Physics, the Constitution... all of it. All these inferior races have... what? Nothing." Analysis: So, based upon this logic of ability based on race, you're able to  recite all of Shakespeare's sonnets and plays, explain the structure and significance of Iambic Pentameter, explain the full spectrum of mathematic, physical and theoretical principles surrounding quantum mechanics and apparently do anything that anyone who's white has ever done... AND YOU WERE THERE AT THE MAGNA CARTA, TOO? WOW!

From Racist Blacks = Usually there is a mentioning of how their musical traditions have been stolen by Whites. Everything from original tribal beats to original Rock&Roll to Raggae to Funk to House to Disco to Jazz has been co-opted... Unh-huh... Same analysis, write and perform a song of the genres mentioned here based upon your obvious ability to do so as a black person and THEN talk to me.

You get my point people.

Discuss... rationally, please.

Name: anti-chan 2006-05-04 20:17

>>49

Uh, that wasn't anti-chan. I, however, am.

In response to: >>50

So why do you attack white heritage if you don't think in terms of race? You must believe race exists, thus must be telling whites that race doesn't exist so they are more likely to be tolerant, of higher crime rates, affirmative action, schools dumbed down to make fools look smarter, because tolerance is strength, because it makes whites passive instead of assertive.

Again, I'm not attacking "white heritage" because the term is nebulous. What is your "white heritage" and why hasn't anyone been able to aptly express the term to me? I attack white racial privalege under the basis that *you* believe in it, to the point where you are willing to accept these privaleges that come from placing yourself high up on the racial heirarchy.

This shouldn't be too hard to understand. Atheists attack the concept of God and yet no one ever seems to claim they somehow still believe in God by virtue of the fact that they understand that everyone else believes in God solely to their benefit.

You seem to under the weird and almost bizzarro-world assumption that whites haven't been assertive about their racial privaleges and so-called "rights of reign" due to where they've placed themselves on the racial heirarchy. If whites were really so passive then this debate would have no ideological base to begin with.

I think someone hit the nail on the head where they said the oppressors new strategy is to claim that they are the ones being oppressed. These oppressors simply can not understand that it is their past "assertiveness" in regards to the racial caste that has led to "higher crime rates, affrimative action, schools dumbed down to make fools look smarter".

It's funny. First you liberally assert and are implictly complacent to a racial caste system where whites are at the top- supposely passive, docile and peace loving and at the lowest end are the "shiftless, uneducated" negroids...

...and then you fault blacks and other non-whites for it playing out?

It's white privalege that wrote the script and every non-white person is able to take an objective look at history and acknowledge this, so who exactly are you trying to fool? Yourselves? Because no non-white person seems convinced. No, white person who's stepped outside of his race seems convinced either.

To me, those whites who bask in their racial privalege and defend them to the teeth have become the new Jew. Or maybe they were always different sides of the same coin. Jews seem to set themselves up to be persecuted and secluded. They seem more than eager to place themselves on the subversive fringe of society and yet wail when they kicked out of a country every 500 years or "unexpectedly" end up the victim of a genocide.

That's why this debate has resorted to one guy posting videos. The whites who take part in the racial heirarchy know that it's a system that's inherantly wrong ethically and morally- but they just can't seem to pull themselves away because it's a system that works solely to their benefit.

This delusion of oppression stems from these whites realizing that no longer are there unwarranted privaleges to merely being white...and they are desperately trying to recover from losses tallied in the civil rights movements of the 60's.

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