Racial Responsibility? What the Fuck?

O.k., I am recapping off of my last thread and the other new threads dealing with such subjects [in euphemism] as the 'stereotypical universal B.O. of Arab peoples' and '"What If" Slavery of Blacks was Reinstated as a Legal Institution' and there seems to be some reoccuring themes in the [il]logic of those who argue for the supremacy/pride/nationalism/genocide/subjugation/etc. of various races on all sides...

 [...I've seen forums in which it has literally turned into a White vs. Black vs. Yellow debate in which the racist Whites accuse ALL Blacks of inferiority and universal problem-making, the racist Blacks accuse ALL Whites of universally instituted racism and holding them back and the racist Yellows accuse the Whites AND Blacks of genetically objective inferiority [see: Wikipedia article on 'Race and Intelligence'] and themselves of being the true superior peoples of humanity... Egh, at least to me, all of these people just seem likepeople needing a lesson in objectivity playing out old evolutionarily primate neuro-script under the guise of objectivity and 'intellectualism'...]

...of this conflict. One of these themes is the theory that because a person is of a certain skin color, they are instantly and undeniably universally responsible AND A PART OF the actions of other people of that same skin color, whether positive or negative. Some of the arguments I've seen from various people who spout this 'Racial Responsibility' as if it was as absolute and irrefutable as the loads of other ignorance they consider true are...

From Racist Whites = "We Anglo-Saxxons have practically carried the Western World, European AND American on our backs. Economic, Scientific, Philosophic, Literary... all us. We have the Magna Carta. Shakespeare. Quantum Physics, the Constitution... all of it. All these inferior races have... what? Nothing." Analysis: So, based upon this logic of ability based on race, you're able to  recite all of Shakespeare's sonnets and plays, explain the structure and significance of Iambic Pentameter, explain the full spectrum of mathematic, physical and theoretical principles surrounding quantum mechanics and apparently do anything that anyone who's white has ever done... AND YOU WERE THERE AT THE MAGNA CARTA, TOO? WOW!

From Racist Blacks = Usually there is a mentioning of how their musical traditions have been stolen by Whites. Everything from original tribal beats to original Rock&Roll to Raggae to Funk to House to Disco to Jazz has been co-opted... Unh-huh... Same analysis, write and perform a song of the genres mentioned here based upon your obvious ability to do so as a black person and THEN talk to me.

You get my point people.

Discuss... rationally, please.

This about your ability to knowledge that way the world is now- owned by whites- is due to white privalege.

You mean like affirmative action? We own the world? China? Taiwan? Japan? Neat? Umm, where's my slice? I mean, I could have sworn that I worked for what I have...  Maybe this invisible white privelege has invisible benefits too? Gee, I guess somebody else stole it for me and forgot to send the memo? So, where's the white privelge in China? Where's the white privelege in Japan? Where's the white privelege in the middle east? Where's the white privelege in South America? Gee, I thought they had Japanese privelege and Chinese privelege and Arabic privelege and all that. I don't really mind because that's their business and I'm perfectly fine with staying in my own country. Oh well. At least you've clarified that white people are the only people not allowed to be 'priveleged,' even amongst themselves. Silly me.

I always thought it was rich people that got priveleges for their class. I guess now it's 'white' people. Oh well. Umm, maybe you live in a place where all the white people are rich?

I know that in the U.S. alone that 45% of the wealthiest portion of our country is either part/half jewish or jewish. Whee! Most ethnocentrific people evar! So, jewish people don't get privelege but WHITE people get privelge. You can't insult jews because otherwise you're a nazithatwantstokillsixmillionjews and a holocaust magician. You can't mention that you might think that the middle east is more of a war for Israel than anything else because you're an evil anti-semite that wants to wipe out the jewish race! Jewish nepotism and private community funds and jewish groups and jew-only schools and communities abound, but it's WHITES that have the privlege. Silly me.

Oh, I'm sorry. Jews aren't racial whatsoever. They base continued membership of your lineage through your mother's side of the family and some of them consider the combining of jews with non-jews as 'destroying the jewish spirit.' Silly, silly, silly me! It's white privelege, stupid!

Jewish people are successful, not because of jewish privelege, but because they are a smart and industrious and harmless and blameless people! White people get all their benefits from white privelege and are evil and sickly and dasterdly! Also, they don't even exist! They're just an illusion! They THINK they exist, but they DON'T really! It's just a social fabrication! They really don't have anything in common, like history or common ground to ethics or common heritage or a similar pool of genetic traits! It's just a white illusion! Don't you see?

You trumpeting all the good whites have done, while glaring over the past atrocites by screaming "objectivy" works only when you having this discussion with other white men.

Atrocities? Uh? At least I know you aren't white. Interesting, apparently you don't have any problems insulting my heritage or my people, which is precisely what you are doing. I know that if I insult black people they get pissed. I know if I insult jewish people they get pissed. I know that if I insult mexican people they get pissed. Apparently, unless I hate my 'white' heritage then I'm some backwards bigot? Uh, ok.

Yes! Hating my own heritage and myself is the first step to enlightenment! Everybody else should hate themselves too! We should talk about black atrocities and Chinese atrocities and Japanese atrocities and jewish atrocities all day too! Never forgive, never forget! We only need one side to history!

There is this little stipulation that anti-racists make that I find ironic. Non-white people are apparently not responsible for their actions, like white people are. That's because non-white people either: have no control over their destiny or 2. aren't considered to have any moral authority because they don't know any better, and whites are supposed to.

Race does very liitle good. Most of what race has done has been bad.

Family too! We should wipe out this idea of family! It only divides people! If we didn't have the idea of family, we'd have world peace!

We need more sterile faceless units for the global village!



Who are you to tell me that 1. I don't HAVE a heritage 2. I shouldn't be defending the way of life I so love and 3. I shouldn't object to my way of life and history be shat and spat upon by two-faced hypocrites like you.

Send back the 11 million Mexicans trying to use La Raza to declare the U.S. part of Mexico. Send back the 20 million Muslims in Europe to North Africa and the Middle East. Send back the 5 million jews more loyal to Israel than the U.S. and their overzealous lubavitcher rebbes and their JDL and their AIPAC back to Israel and let them deal with their 'international' problems on their own without sacrificing the blood and treasure of the U.S. and Europe. Do all these things, and then we'll talk.