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Racial Responsibility? What the Fuck?

Name: Vrendi 2006-04-23 13:49

O.k., I am recapping off of my last thread and the other new threads dealing with such subjects [in euphemism] as the 'stereotypical universal B.O. of Arab peoples' and '"What If" Slavery of Blacks was Reinstated as a Legal Institution' and there seems to be some reoccuring themes in the [il]logic of those who argue for the supremacy/pride/nationalism/genocide/subjugation/etc. of various races on all sides...

 [...I've seen forums in which it has literally turned into a White vs. Black vs. Yellow debate in which the racist Whites accuse ALL Blacks of inferiority and universal problem-making, the racist Blacks accuse ALL Whites of universally instituted racism and holding them back and the racist Yellows accuse the Whites AND Blacks of genetically objective inferiority [see: Wikipedia article on 'Race and Intelligence'] and themselves of being the true superior peoples of humanity... Egh, at least to me, all of these people just seem likepeople needing a lesson in objectivity playing out old evolutionarily primate neuro-script under the guise of objectivity and 'intellectualism'...]

...of this conflict. One of these themes is the theory that because a person is of a certain skin color, they are instantly and undeniably universally responsible AND A PART OF the actions of other people of that same skin color, whether positive or negative. Some of the arguments I've seen from various people who spout this 'Racial Responsibility' as if it was as absolute and irrefutable as the loads of other ignorance they consider true are...

From Racist Whites = "We Anglo-Saxxons have practically carried the Western World, European AND American on our backs. Economic, Scientific, Philosophic, Literary... all us. We have the Magna Carta. Shakespeare. Quantum Physics, the Constitution... all of it. All these inferior races have... what? Nothing." Analysis: So, based upon this logic of ability based on race, you're able to  recite all of Shakespeare's sonnets and plays, explain the structure and significance of Iambic Pentameter, explain the full spectrum of mathematic, physical and theoretical principles surrounding quantum mechanics and apparently do anything that anyone who's white has ever done... AND YOU WERE THERE AT THE MAGNA CARTA, TOO? WOW!

From Racist Blacks = Usually there is a mentioning of how their musical traditions have been stolen by Whites. Everything from original tribal beats to original Rock&Roll to Raggae to Funk to House to Disco to Jazz has been co-opted... Unh-huh... Same analysis, write and perform a song of the genres mentioned here based upon your obvious ability to do so as a black person and THEN talk to me.

You get my point people.

Discuss... rationally, please.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-30 21:29

That's a sort of hypocritical, and as has been mentioned on this board many times, and 'anti-white' way of looking at things.

What is so hypocritical about it? My basis for saying that the white race is a fabrication is based on the fact the root of the word was used to define nations of people. The only benefit from realizing race is "support", support that frankly should be aptly filled by family and friends. Just because someone is the same race as you doesn't make them your family. It is in this way that race becomes a strong social force based on the priveleges of being a certain race. The racial heirarchy exist for this reason alone. Not as a mere classification.

So, whites collectively aren't responsible for any of the good they do, but they are collectively responsible for the evil that they do. Either way, they shouldn't continue on as a heritage, tradition, or people.

No. If you perceive yourself to be a part of "the white race". Then it is simply a matter of taking responsibily and pride in all the think the white race has done collectively. Negative or Positive. THis is your burden and your responsibilty to your racial indentity. This isn't about non-whites history getting the short end of the stick. This about your ability to knowledge that way the world is now- owned by whites- is due to white privalege. You trumpeting all the good whites have done, while glaring over the past atrocites by screaming "objectivy" works only when you having this discussion with other white men.

Meaning- your behavior in regards to "preserving white racial interest" (See: White privalege) doesn't fly with the rest of the world. All this "white backlash" you seem occupied with, as if you're afriad your people are going to be wiped out- stems from you wanting to see white privalege continue.

Of course you want to keep thing seperate and use these definions- you're white and you're on top of the racial heirarchy. What I'm saying is: For human kind to continue on this way is just silly. Race does very liitle good. Most of what race has done has been bad.

Acknowledge this, already and put it perspective as to where you see the world going in the next 1,000 years.

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