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Racial Responsibility? What the Fuck?

Name: Vrendi 2006-04-23 13:49

O.k., I am recapping off of my last thread and the other new threads dealing with such subjects [in euphemism] as the 'stereotypical universal B.O. of Arab peoples' and '"What If" Slavery of Blacks was Reinstated as a Legal Institution' and there seems to be some reoccuring themes in the [il]logic of those who argue for the supremacy/pride/nationalism/genocide/subjugation/etc. of various races on all sides...

 [...I've seen forums in which it has literally turned into a White vs. Black vs. Yellow debate in which the racist Whites accuse ALL Blacks of inferiority and universal problem-making, the racist Blacks accuse ALL Whites of universally instituted racism and holding them back and the racist Yellows accuse the Whites AND Blacks of genetically objective inferiority [see: Wikipedia article on 'Race and Intelligence'] and themselves of being the true superior peoples of humanity... Egh, at least to me, all of these people just seem likepeople needing a lesson in objectivity playing out old evolutionarily primate neuro-script under the guise of objectivity and 'intellectualism'...]

...of this conflict. One of these themes is the theory that because a person is of a certain skin color, they are instantly and undeniably universally responsible AND A PART OF the actions of other people of that same skin color, whether positive or negative. Some of the arguments I've seen from various people who spout this 'Racial Responsibility' as if it was as absolute and irrefutable as the loads of other ignorance they consider true are...

From Racist Whites = "We Anglo-Saxxons have practically carried the Western World, European AND American on our backs. Economic, Scientific, Philosophic, Literary... all us. We have the Magna Carta. Shakespeare. Quantum Physics, the Constitution... all of it. All these inferior races have... what? Nothing." Analysis: So, based upon this logic of ability based on race, you're able to  recite all of Shakespeare's sonnets and plays, explain the structure and significance of Iambic Pentameter, explain the full spectrum of mathematic, physical and theoretical principles surrounding quantum mechanics and apparently do anything that anyone who's white has ever done... AND YOU WERE THERE AT THE MAGNA CARTA, TOO? WOW!

From Racist Blacks = Usually there is a mentioning of how their musical traditions have been stolen by Whites. Everything from original tribal beats to original Rock&Roll to Raggae to Funk to House to Disco to Jazz has been co-opted... Unh-huh... Same analysis, write and perform a song of the genres mentioned here based upon your obvious ability to do so as a black person and THEN talk to me.

You get my point people.

Discuss... rationally, please.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-29 0:38

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I mean: Are we babies? Do any of us really *need* this extra support? And why can't this behavior stretch beyond race and progress into love for other human beings as "family"? Family is such an abstract term that can apply to anyone for any reason- regardless of race. That's how love and support actually work.
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1. Yes human beings need support. No this is not an indication of being 'a baby'.

2. There is a shared comaraderie that humans share with each other. This is true. This is not racial comaraderie.

Races also share racial comaraderie with each other. You speak as though the two are mutually exclusive. They are not.

There is also family comaraderie. This is not mutually exclusive with race or nation or species either. You can share racial, familial, national, and idealistic comraderie with different sets of people. They are not mutually exclusive. Race is just a current taboo. In the future, the taboo might be family or nation. who knows?

As per family, Joe who lives down the street is not family.

When you say that two non-blood related people are 'family' then you are using the term with a different connotation. My dog is family. She isn't even human. However, she is not related by blood either. I know this. So, what does family mean in this case? It means that my dog and I are as close as families are supposed to idealistically be.

Certainly, race is no barrier to two non-blood-related or copulation-related people being 'family' in this connotation. Why waste your mind attacking racialists? There is something else going on here. You consistently portray the 'white' in your mind as 'the other'. You see whites with a racial identity as threatening. Threatening to the point where you wish to spend hours talking on a message board to oppose the realization of racial identity by whites.

Again, you portray whites as being some sort of villian throughout history. This is odd. From my perspective, even before my racial realization, I saw whites as heroes. My heroes were Leibniz and Newton, Decartes and Socrates, Plato and Aristotle. Aesop's fables was my joy.

You might say this is 'one-sided' but I think positively of my own people. This is typically a healthy view that peoples and races have. They believe that they come from a positive tradition. Yet, your world view is one where the white is greedy, sinister and evil, the caricatured villan.

In fact, you would characterize my believe in white history being a positive one as being evil. This is strange.

Again, you are being disingenious. I wonder where your self-interest lies? I wonder what motivations you have? Where does your racial interest lie? Where do your other interests lie? You obviously have some motive for doing this. Will you be disingenuous in that admittal as well?

If I were planning to destabilize Japan, I would first seek to divide its people. I would convince them that Japanese is really a silly term, and actually most Japanese come from specific regions. These regions are distinct. And the Japanese look different, why look at the Ainu! They hardly look Japanese at all! Why, there is no such thing as Japanese people!

The first activity of the propagandist is to attack unity.

'Anti-racism' is 'anti-white-ism.' So, why do you fear and hate the white race so much, that you would attack its members implicitly by dividing them?

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