Racial Responsibility? What the Fuck?

O.k., I am recapping off of my last thread and the other new threads dealing with such subjects [in euphemism] as the 'stereotypical universal B.O. of Arab peoples' and '"What If" Slavery of Blacks was Reinstated as a Legal Institution' and there seems to be some reoccuring themes in the [il]logic of those who argue for the supremacy/pride/nationalism/genocide/subjugation/etc. of various races on all sides...

 [...I've seen forums in which it has literally turned into a White vs. Black vs. Yellow debate in which the racist Whites accuse ALL Blacks of inferiority and universal problem-making, the racist Blacks accuse ALL Whites of universally instituted racism and holding them back and the racist Yellows accuse the Whites AND Blacks of genetically objective inferiority [see: Wikipedia article on 'Race and Intelligence'] and themselves of being the true superior peoples of humanity... Egh, at least to me, all of these people just seem likepeople needing a lesson in objectivity playing out old evolutionarily primate neuro-script under the guise of objectivity and 'intellectualism'...]

...of this conflict. One of these themes is the theory that because a person is of a certain skin color, they are instantly and undeniably universally responsible AND A PART OF the actions of other people of that same skin color, whether positive or negative. Some of the arguments I've seen from various people who spout this 'Racial Responsibility' as if it was as absolute and irrefutable as the loads of other ignorance they consider true are...

From Racist Whites = "We Anglo-Saxxons have practically carried the Western World, European AND American on our backs. Economic, Scientific, Philosophic, Literary... all us. We have the Magna Carta. Shakespeare. Quantum Physics, the Constitution... all of it. All these inferior races have... what? Nothing." Analysis: So, based upon this logic of ability based on race, you're able to  recite all of Shakespeare's sonnets and plays, explain the structure and significance of Iambic Pentameter, explain the full spectrum of mathematic, physical and theoretical principles surrounding quantum mechanics and apparently do anything that anyone who's white has ever done... AND YOU WERE THERE AT THE MAGNA CARTA, TOO? WOW!

From Racist Blacks = Usually there is a mentioning of how their musical traditions have been stolen by Whites. Everything from original tribal beats to original Rock&Roll to Raggae to Funk to House to Disco to Jazz has been co-opted... Unh-huh... Same analysis, write and perform a song of the genres mentioned here based upon your obvious ability to do so as a black person and THEN talk to me.

You get my point people.

Discuss... rationally, please.

1. My assumption in this example was if I were Asian.
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Clearly judging by America's current racial climate, in a white neighborhood non-whites will have a problem being safe in a definate psychological sense of the word. Racist love to dice shit up into "who steals, who rapes?" as if history hasn't proven their (so called white) behavior to be just as hostile if not more.
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No. Blacks are safer in a white neighborhood than they would be in a black neighborhood. Of course, one neighborhood is not equal to another, but let's take this construction to be poor neighborhoods. Blacks are safer in a poor white neighborhood than they are in a poor black neighborhood.

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What you fail to understand time and time again is that race, as concept has thus far done more harm than good. Can you enlighten us on what good it's done for all of human kind? What do you think gets a stronger negative reaction from the human psyche? Being different...or being treated a certain way FOR being different?
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Race is a concept and it is an observation. Observational data doesn't just pop out of existsnce because you don't like it. If a group of like-minded people get together to reinforce their ideas this is known as politics. Races, families, clans, nations, ideological groups, colleges, states, and so on, all have political underpinnings. When you say 'difference' you are relating to group conflict which is spriously correlated with race. In other words, you aren't being entirely intellectually honest. In order to attack race from this viewpoint, you have all forms of human grouping, the social aspect being one of the most powerful forces for change by mankind.

The good that realization of race does comes from the support roles and human activity that comes out of it. Let's compare the idea to realization of family, family also being a heredity based social construct. When a family functions appropriately, it offers a support base and a boon of good will to the members from the members. Families, if they work properly, are good for the interaction of the members. It gives people a reason to come together.

You rail against the concept of the 'other' and the idea that conflict comes from it. But, you have forgotten something. Being white, when I interact with Asian mathematicians, do I consider them the 'other' or do I consider to have a bond with them through commonality of interest? Well, I can tell you that from my experience that I do not consider them the 'other.' But, I realize that they do not come from the same race as I. They have a different heritage. This is not a source of conflict; like nation, it only becomes a source of conflict when one group threatens another in some way. Ironically, all the much ballyhooed hype about and concentrating on blacks, who have played a very small role in history, is that blacks are overly threatening to whites as they encroach on white living space and cultural standards. Orientals do not do this, so there are no complaints about this.

When race is realized, blacks obviously are given a bad reputation, but in all honesty, as a race they deserve that bad reputation. When race is realized, Orientals are given a generally good reputation and they generally deserve this. When race is realized, whites are given a good reputation, and guess what, they too deserve this reputation as a race. Considering that all white people are following in the tradition of many great men and women, we certainly have a lot to live up to.


Who should you blame, the 'racist' for being observative or the black community for not being able to control their own?


The irony about 'race,' no matter how hard you try to attack those that recognize it, is that it will persist beyond you. Why? Because it gets its roots from observation. People will observe it over and over again and be driven to come to their own natural conclusions.

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Anyone cheering for race and ignoring the harm the concept has done is cheering for the unfair privaleges that come with their race. (Affrimative action, positive stereotyping into certain roles within society, etc)
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This again is a biased attack on observation. Observation affects cognition. This much is certain. However, being Oriental does not mean that you have a degree in mathematics. However, it has been observed that many Orientals tend to flourish in math.

Basically your argument on 'stereotyping' is this:
"I recognize that Oriental students do better in math in class, because I recognize this I will give Oriental students a better score in math because I know they are Oriental."

This is a laughable concept. It is an especially laughable concept to white people, who in general practice the ideas of distinction handed down through our traditions. Those ideas being from Greece, giving logic special claims to certainty, and to emphasis on freedom of expression and result, i.e. the scientist culture that came out of our ancestors' advances in philosophy. Your arguement is that race shouldn't be realized because it might lead to some form of nepotism, but by that arguement nation or family or friendship or any other sort of common bond, outside of the ironically 'white' set of cultural values, that could result in nepotism, shouldn't be realized. In other words, the relation with race and nepotism is spurious, related rather to shared group bonds than race itself.  If you wish to make an attack against all form of human identity, observational like race or species, or convienient like fraternity membership, then go ahead and do so. You will be wasting your breath; human beings tend to thrive on these things and derive considerable benefits from them. 

Ha, you mentioned 'white supremacism.' Took you long enough. Any white people that realizes and acts on their racial membership is eventually called this. Once you have realized this identity, you also realize that this term has become so ubiquitous that really what it has come to mean is, "realization of white racial interests as a group." So, if you mean to say that I realize race and recognize that white people have a right to continue their culture and racial traditions without attack or disruption, rather the disruption be black, mexican, or muslim, then you are absolutely correct and this attitude is good and beneficial for white people to have, for themselves.


As for an
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Apes and monkeys in the wild live in close-knit families, generally isolated from other groups. They can be extremely territorial and aggressive if threatened. Recently, biologists studying chimpanzees in western Africa noticed a huge decline in the chimps' numbers as logging operations neared their home range. It seems that the loggers' machines chase chimps across territorial borders, resulting in a deadly conflict between opposing chimp groups.
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So, why are so many whites coming to a racial realization against the surge of propaganda designed to 'turn off their brain' to the realization of race? Because white racial interest is being especially threatened. The problem is not with whites flooding into other countries and demanding to fly an alien flag or demanding that schools be taught in English rather than Chinese or with whites attacking or breaking the laws of the culture they have infiltrated, the problem is that whites are being threatened in this manner.

This is forcing whites to realize that they share things in common with one another and that they have shared interests in the preservation of their race and culture and living space.

As these forces rise to a climax, which they currently are, no amount of propaganda designed to manipulate psychological awareness will stifle the common realization of shared racial bonds.