Abortions banned in South Dakota

I love how Bush and friends don't give a shit about children (No Child Left Behind was propped up on proven false results and has been fought tooth and nail by teachers across the US), poor people, or jobs, yet saving the life of a fetus is No. 1 Priority.

It doesn't matter that the kid will grow up into a poor family, get a shit education, have increased college tuition that will put him/her in debt or avoid college, etc. Just saving that fetus is more important.

And now even women with medical conditions or rape victims can't get abortions. I love that logic - you'll die conceiving a child, but the child lives so that makes it OK.

Fuck Bush and his Nazi regime. Our goddamn founders had a seperation of Church and State for a reason.

>>35
abortion is not murder lolol

>>37
they're not babies, and they're definitely not women.  they're tiny clumps of cells.

>>40
I think we have gone over this "dumb" argument already and it has proven to be quite "dumb" to bring it up, because guess what a new born baby is no more smarter outside the womb than it was a few minutes ago inside or even a few weeks before however killing the former would be murder, but killing the latter is a "procedure".

And umm yeah I will type about eating fetuses on 4chan so everyone will think I'm so hardcore 9.9 lolz I think your mum called its bedtime little boy.

>>41 arbortion is not murder only because the law says so. If you recall Hitler killing a few million jews was not "murder" under their law, so just because the law says so doesn't make it so.

We're all "clumps of cells" so what's your point?

>>42
are you still anti abortion in cases of rape and incest? after all a fetus is a fetus and it's not its fault how it was concieved. That's the problem with anti-abortion fags. They are hardly consistent.

>>43

Yes, after all as you say what did that child do wrong? Punish the perp.

>>44
and who is going to foot the bill for bringing up the child that the mother didn't want in the first place?

And what about the pain that the child and the mother will grow up being shunned by the community because of incest. You anti-abortion fags only seem to care about a bunch of cells.

>>45
Who cares? Heil Jesus, LOL.

JESUS WILL PAY FOR IT LOL.

>>46
You contradict yourself, so you care so much for the possible "pain" the child and mother will grow up with but you are more than ready to make sure the child never grows up in the first place?

Hey no one ever said life was easy, that's the problem in general with abortion it is a convinience like everything else in the cult of me. If *I* want it, it should be so, just like relationshsips and everything else that is falling apart my partner should be as perfect as I imagined them to be oh else oh woe this just won't work out. My job must just as perfect as I imagined or else...no one wants to work at anything or suffer and abortion is just an offshoot of that mentality; this baby will be a problem so just get rid of it. Utter depraved selfishness, and mostly from the left who claim to be such bastions of humanity and caring, hypocrites!

>>47
>>48

LOL didn't I tell you, you're mum called get to bed already...

>>49
so you're alright with a woman getting raped and not being able to get an abortion? you're a sad person. I just hope your wife or daughter gets raped someday. Perhaps then you will change your mind.

How about this you anti-abortion fuckers. For every fetus that would have been aborted but hasn't you will have to pay the kids food, schooling and healthcare costs. I am sure the money is more than worth "saving a life". It's funny how you fuckers go on about how abortion is evil, until it directly affects you. So stop forcing your views on other people.

>>52

Here we go again, then if it was my view that killing whome ever pissed me off was ok would the cops be forcing their view on me when they came to arrest me?

>>53
so you're alright with a woman getting raped and not being able to get an abortion? you're a sad person. I just hope your wife or daughter gets raped someday. Perhaps then you will change your mind.

>>53
I hope you are anti death penalty as well lol. Otherwise that's some massive hypocrisy right thur.

>>51
The bottom line is that 90% or higher abortions are performed for none of those reasons but on perfectly healthy women with perfectly healthy babies. So stop that murder first and we can debate the finer points of allowing it in cases of rape or incest.

I am more than happy to see Abortion made illegal in USA, since I don't live in USA. It would bring a lot of money to the local economy in other countries as thousands of women travel just to get aborted.

>>56
What's so a fine point about rape? A fetus is a fetus. In your view they should be all the same. You are just avoiding the question. Do you support abortion in case of rape or incest or not?

>>58
where am I avoiding the question? I already answered >>44

>>59
Glad you care more about a bunch of cells than a human being.

>>>39
i vote for deadwomen in back alleys ty very much!

>>55

Why should I be anti death penalty? There is a difference between being put to death for a crime and being put to death because it might inconvenience your mother just a little bit. Maybe she should have thought of that first before spreading her legs, and don't start the rape BS, because once again there is a far more serious problem if the millions of abortions performed were all due to rape and incest.

>> we're going in circles here, those cells are human beings, you are a bunch of cells so what makes you human? And why does that not apply to the unborn child?

>>57 At least you're being honest about it, wonder if those in power who are so pro abortion would be as forthcoming. Bottom line its big business.

>>62

A human is a human right? Murder is Murder right? lol Hyporcrisy. If you are anti-abortion then you should be anti-death penalty as well. fucking hypocrites.

>>62

A fetus is part of one's body. It doesn't think on it's own. A person has the right to do what it wants with his/her body.

>>63
it's called punishment. the fetus didn't do anything to deserve death.

>>65

so wait, you support killing to a human being but are against killing of a bunch of cells. what a hypocrite.

The fetus becomes sentient after 20 weeks of growth. Aborting a 20 week old fetus is evil.

>>66
punishment. a death penalty says that that human being does not deserve to exist or is dangerous to the society.

>>66

I am >>62 etc but not >>65.

Anyway these arguments are so old and tired, there is no hypocrasy at all, I support the right to life for the *innocent* unborn, and I support just punishment for those that deserve it up to and including death. How is that remotely hypocritical?

This is a silly red herring thrown in by those who know they defend the indefensible just to uphold their religion of choice.

It is obviously a religion for many who uphold it because they defend it in the face of scientific proofs to the contrary.

As >>67 pointed out the fetus is sentinet after only a few weeks, perhaps you all need a course in basic human reproduction??

>>66 a human being is just a bunch of cells, again I ask what makes us human? And what doesn't make a fetus human?

>>69
>>68
Well, you do that lol. I will just stay in my country which is not USA and enjoy yet again one more right than Americans. Enjoy!

>>69

That's the problem, though. You think what makes us human is that we consider abortion inhuman. It's a psychological edge that the "pro-lifers" are after. You want to make it alright to kill in certain circumstances when in actuality it is wrong to kill in *any* circumstance.

The Ten Commandments are very clear on taking ANY lives. So are the teaches of Jesus Christ. If abortion is wrong and evil- then so is capital punishment. It's not for man to judge man. Only God can judge mankind.

What's even more sickening is that you do all of this in the name of morality and in the name of God. But the truth is- you'd be willing to cash in your beliefs for any circumstance.  

A fetus is not "just a cluster of cells" after 20 weeks. Selfish mothers just want to get away with murder so they don't have to go through a few months of pregnancy.

>>71

>>1 lost all credibility by resorting to name calling.

>>71
I can think of many circumstances where it is very right to kill; defending yourself, defending your loved ones, defending your country,I am pretty sure evn the ten commandments allow that, by extension putting proven criminal to death is defending all those.

However I thought there was a separation of church and state in the USA, boy I guess the ACLU is going to be pissed when it finds out about all those laws against murder etc.

You see there are many atheists who are also against abortion, this is a purely scientific debate which happens to be supported by many religious people.

Is a fetus human that is the quesiton? And the answer is a resounding YES. Thus this is a human rights issue not a religious issue, though one can debate that we obtain human rights from the 'divine'.

So basicly all these people supporting the murder of the unborn are doing so ignoring the personhood of that unborn child, despite increasing scientific evidence to the contray.

And for what? Convenience, not rape not incest but just plain selfishness:

In a study conducted by the pro-abortion Alan Guttmacher Institute, entitled “Why Women Have Abortions,” women were asked to give specific reasons why they had an abortion. The top three answers were: 1. Unready for responsibility 2. Can't afford baby now 3. Concern about how having a baby would change her life. The three reasons, which came in last place and were tied at 1 percent included: 1. Was a victim of rape or incest 2. Husband or partner wanted the abortion 3. Didn't want others to know she has had sex or is pregnant. Studies and statistics consistently show that pregnancies due to rape and incest are rare. According to Guttmacher that 1% due to rape and incest is 14,000 babies per year. Therefore, abortion is not mainly used as a last resort.

>>75
Which one of the commandment bylaws makes any of those circumstances necessary? Oh wait, there are just 10, and they have no room for loose contruction.

Thou shalt NOT kill.  Its not "Thou shalt not kill unjustly, or in any cases that are not sanctioned by man as justifiable tools of sustaining society"

If killing a baby is selfish, how about war? War is based on lust for power, which is selfish in itself.  Judging and sentencing a human being (a priviledge not given to you by god) implies that you esteem yourself worthy to do so. (Pride = selfishness)

The point that was attempted to be made was that only God has the wisdom to deal out justice, and decide what is right or wrong.  Abortion may very well be wrong, but calling it so while endorsing war/death penalty is hypocritical.

Too many fuckers think they can create eutopia on earth, what morons.

>>76 i thought this thread read "aboriginals banned in south dakota". but yes, right on. you go girl.

>>76
eutopia? zomg freudian slip! FASCIST!

>>founders had a seperation of Church and State for a reason.

I think this is a good point. People who think abortion should be banned usually take their opinions from religion.

>>79
Seperation of Church and State means that the State cannot have an official religion.

The founders had absolutely no problem with people having opinions based on their religion. They wanted freedom of religion which means that they welcomed people taking opinions from any religion.