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Name: Anonymous 2006-01-31 1:02

Hi, I'm black college student studying human biology and medicine and I am a democrat, but thinking of voting differently next election.

Who decides what progressive means and what progress is?

The discovery of anti-biotics was progressive, the civil rights movement was progressive, Maya Angelou is progressive. So why exactly is having more promiscuous gay sex "progressive"? How exactly is socialism progressive? Why is mass immigration progressive? None of these things do any good.

P.S. Finland is a republic with a 50% tax rate, not socialist republic or a democratic socialism. If you want to look as socialist "republics" go to China, North Korea and Vietnam and if you want actual republics and democracies go to neighbouring Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan and South Korea. These countries, even though they have a wider poor-rich gap still provide better care for their worse off than countries who supposedly value equality.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-06 6:54

>>71
Yes. Read Thomas Hobbes' Leviathan. The human existence or life in general is all about violence. Look at animals, they just kill each other off, it's pure survival of the fittest. Even in  ancient civilizations it was like that. The (War-)Lord protecting their kingdom/tribe with pure violence. And within societies, it's the exact same thing as well as in todays international politics. The best thing to enforce things is still the army. This might change if states would actually give a fuck about the UN, but we're not there yet.
So in short, of course the majority would want to lead a peaceful life. But if there is a small minority who wants to be evil and gain wealth by exploiting others because it is so much easier (which would be perfectly legitimate in a state without laws), the majority would be fucked. That's the reason for the existence of laws.

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