I'm not a racist, but I am...

This forum is full of it, but it's all true. The facts are there. Maybe there is a little hyperbole, sure black people can become doctors, fly planes etc... I'm a reasonable human being, I was raised in a liberal environment. I have bullied before, but never been racist and I see bigotry as immature, however I can't escape the fact that they are indeed very unusual looking.

http://unicast.org/forums/forum.php?forum_id=1

"golly, niggers are hideous with their buck teeth, black skin and brillo heads. Egads."

Just do a google search for skull shapes of different races and albino black people... CAucasian and mongoloid skulls are about the same and both these races have obviously exceeded negrito races in culture and civilisation. Even the obscure native americans constructed early civilisations. Their hunter gatherers tribes only existed due to their isolation, deprived of the circumstnaces that allow for agrarian civilisation. Given another 1000 years after the SPanish arrived, and the Gulf of Mexico would be like the Mediteranean circa 1000 B.C..

Though I can't say the same for black civilisations, they were not isolated, theywere exposed to the Egyptians, who were arabic, im not one of these nuts who thinks they are white. I really am not a racist or even a far right conservative...

I can't contain what i think anymore and I shouldn't be afraid of expressing my thoughts. They do look so animal like, it is as if they are a relic from evolution before human civilisation. In fact that's what they are, the only tribal systems outside of sub-saharran africa left by around 1300 were in areas which didn't have much food. Yet in the rich jungles of africa they still lived in the stone age, never utilising the wide range of plants there.

I think the out of africa theory is correct and that blacks haven't evolved much whilst caucasians and mongoloids have had to deal with the ice age.

How should I approach these facts rationally? Liberals say I should just ignore them, conservatives say I should become a whtie supremacist nut. Surely there is another way? Surely there is a way to get society to accept these facts without sinking into depths of paranoia and stupidity.

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Well, you can only say that race only has social conditions attached if you ignore the fact that many things which are genetically linked are present in that "race".  For the most obvious example, skin color.

That being said, I do believe that most of the inequality between races is primarily social and as you say, environmental.  But that doesn't mean that a genetic component to someone's intelligence doesn't exist, or that it should be ignored.

>> Why is impossible that the sub-saharan African didn't already contain the entire potential for intelligence in its base cast of genes?

It's not impossible, not at all impossible.  But what matters here is the frequency of certain traits within a genetic group.    While there's not yet any accurate genetic survey which maps the genes responsible for intelligence, they have managed to find some genes which do regulate certain nervous system functions that are less prevalent among africans.  This doesn't make them inferior at all, if anything they only represent a slight edge that could be made up for in blacks with appropriate education. 

What I'm saying is that europeans (cro-magnonoids etc) had a more harsh environment.  This did lead to many many changes in allele frequencies...  Possibly even some new mutant genes that might have been advantageous (this would be "evolution") but that hasn't been proven.  The same goes for caucasoids and asians.

>> It doesn't make the new skin color fundamentally different biologically from the prior.

It's still a change.  It doesn't have to be fundamental to be significant. This is an curious debate tactic I've seen you use a lot during this debate, assert that something is not significant just because it doesn't represent a large change.  An electric engine runs 30% more efficiently on 240 volt current than it does on 120, yet the change is, speaking from an electical engineering standpoint, insignifcant. Oh well, I'm just a person on the sidelines.

I do have a LOT to say to the racists in this thread though, about their psudoscience and just plain asenine use of intellect.  I'll get to that in a forthcoming post.