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I'm not a racist, but I am...

Name: Anonymous 2005-12-06 1:18

This forum is full of it, but it's all true. The facts are there. Maybe there is a little hyperbole, sure black people can become doctors, fly planes etc... I'm a reasonable human being, I was raised in a liberal environment. I have bullied before, but never been racist and I see bigotry as immature, however I can't escape the fact that they are indeed very unusual looking.

http://unicast.org/forums/forum.php?forum_id=1

"golly, niggers are hideous with their buck teeth, black skin and brillo heads. Egads."

Just do a google search for skull shapes of different races and albino black people... CAucasian and mongoloid skulls are about the same and both these races have obviously exceeded negrito races in culture and civilisation. Even the obscure native americans constructed early civilisations. Their hunter gatherers tribes only existed due to their isolation, deprived of the circumstnaces that allow for agrarian civilisation. Given another 1000 years after the SPanish arrived, and the Gulf of Mexico would be like the Mediteranean circa 1000 B.C..

Though I can't say the same for black civilisations, they were not isolated, theywere exposed to the Egyptians, who were arabic, im not one of these nuts who thinks they are white. I really am not a racist or even a far right conservative...

I can't contain what i think anymore and I shouldn't be afraid of expressing my thoughts. They do look so animal like, it is as if they are a relic from evolution before human civilisation. In fact that's what they are, the only tribal systems outside of sub-saharran africa left by around 1300 were in areas which didn't have much food. Yet in the rich jungles of africa they still lived in the stone age, never utilising the wide range of plants there.

I think the out of africa theory is correct and that blacks haven't evolved much whilst caucasians and mongoloids have had to deal with the ice age.

How should I approach these facts rationally? Liberals say I should just ignore them, conservatives say I should become a whtie supremacist nut. Surely there is another way? Surely there is a way to get society to accept these facts without sinking into depths of paranoia and stupidity.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-13 10:27

err, OK.  First, how g-factor relates to later success in life.  Link:

http//www.p/...

And on the nature vs nurture thing, yes, I realize that we can't say for sure that his decision to leave was genetic, but he was always the "smart one" in his family, and that link I provided showed that early IQ is indicative of future success, even among members of the same family.  I can't conclusively rule out something in the water, or air, or something somebody said to him one day, but then again, you can't conclusively rule out genetics. 
And honestly, I believe that yes, something probably did happen to change his mind, his outlook.  But he had that capacity, that ability to build to back it up.  This is what's linked to g-factor intelligence, which contrary to what you seem to have come to think is actually a pretty well-proven phenomenon. Listening to your story, your parents are very much unlike many of the poor people I've known in the past (I did a lot of volunteer work in my more bleeding-heart days).  Most people either didn't care that they were poor, or believed that it was impossible to get out of because someone in power was blocking them from getting ahead.  Most of the time, when talking with them, it arose out of a misunderstanding of how society works.  They always believed someone was witholding something from them that was theirs, for example, welfare.  They thought they had a right to it, not realizing that it was charity.  Often times, they will have been passed up for promotions at work, and they'll be unable to comprhend that their superiors might not see them as exactly reliable, and instead blamed it on the fact that they were not well liked, or whatever else they could think of.  See the way someone's apprehension of a situation might affect their overall view of it?  Many of them told their children that the world was hostile, and would  try to bring them down at every opportunity, thought of education as a waste... I've read stories though, about people, even believing things like this managed to rise above it, used it to get ahead.  Their parents' resignation to poverty became their own driving force. BTW, most of these people were white, so don't get me wrong.

BTW, that story wasn't so sweet.  I know it might have on skimming come across as a propaganda piece, but if you read carefully, you'd know that my great grandfather was an insane person, and well, an asshole.  I probably wouldn't have gotten along with him.

Where I said blacks blame whitey, yes, I can agree that that notion doesn't neccesarily disappear with an increase in IQ, what I meant was when they use whitey as an excuse not to amount to anything.  I really should have made that clear, and I apologize.  I'm really using this point to show how one can overcome cultural influence with the ability to think rationally and make clear decisions.  You seem to think I'm cutting you or your race out here, saying that there's no place for you or your people in the future.  I'm not.

The hitties, I think, failed because of pressures from the nearby assyrian empire, an altogether more aggressive and powerful empire, though I could be wrong. I THINK that the assyrians had iron at that time as well, but my specialty isn't history, and this is outside the scope of any argument I'm making.

I don't believe a high intelligence actually controls someone's future; this is another place where I'm being misinterpreted.  I think that you'll agree with me that a high intelligence, no matter how you believe it is given rise, allows someone the ability to control their future, while low intelligence can easily be said to control someone's future regardless of what they want.

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