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I'm not a racist, but I am...

Name: Anonymous 2005-12-06 1:18

This forum is full of it, but it's all true. The facts are there. Maybe there is a little hyperbole, sure black people can become doctors, fly planes etc... I'm a reasonable human being, I was raised in a liberal environment. I have bullied before, but never been racist and I see bigotry as immature, however I can't escape the fact that they are indeed very unusual looking.

http://unicast.org/forums/forum.php?forum_id=1

"golly, niggers are hideous with their buck teeth, black skin and brillo heads. Egads."

Just do a google search for skull shapes of different races and albino black people... CAucasian and mongoloid skulls are about the same and both these races have obviously exceeded negrito races in culture and civilisation. Even the obscure native americans constructed early civilisations. Their hunter gatherers tribes only existed due to their isolation, deprived of the circumstnaces that allow for agrarian civilisation. Given another 1000 years after the SPanish arrived, and the Gulf of Mexico would be like the Mediteranean circa 1000 B.C..

Though I can't say the same for black civilisations, they were not isolated, theywere exposed to the Egyptians, who were arabic, im not one of these nuts who thinks they are white. I really am not a racist or even a far right conservative...

I can't contain what i think anymore and I shouldn't be afraid of expressing my thoughts. They do look so animal like, it is as if they are a relic from evolution before human civilisation. In fact that's what they are, the only tribal systems outside of sub-saharran africa left by around 1300 were in areas which didn't have much food. Yet in the rich jungles of africa they still lived in the stone age, never utilising the wide range of plants there.

I think the out of africa theory is correct and that blacks haven't evolved much whilst caucasians and mongoloids have had to deal with the ice age.

How should I approach these facts rationally? Liberals say I should just ignore them, conservatives say I should become a whtie supremacist nut. Surely there is another way? Surely there is a way to get society to accept these facts without sinking into depths of paranoia and stupidity.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-13 5:57

We have a relatively complete picture of what it does, and that’s enough.

This is once again, where youth and uneducation play a role. No, we don't have a "relatively complete picture" it's more like I said: An abstract. And no, evidenced by this thread, it's very obvious that what we have now is not enough. It isn't the mission of science to stop asking questions and stop using methodology. This is something you keep trying to skirt around.

Einstein had much less educational opportunity than German royalty, and yet he was still a genius.  Why?

I'm not answering that until you tell me why the Hittites civilization failed. They were smarter, discovered iron and steel first...where are they? Getting sick of you answering none of my questions and then expecting me to answer yours. I'm not answering any more of your "pointed questions" until you address >>648. Other than that, let's keep it down to raw statements.

Also: The grandfather story is sweet, but doesn't account for the numerical value of his IQ- which I think it's pretty safe to say was in the same ballpark range of his family. (Low) Another gaping hole in your argument that you pretend doesn't exist: "Poverty often effects intelligence *IN GENERAL*." It's rare that Poverty makes one more intelligent than his family- this is proof that leaps in IQ occur on the individual level. Further more you have ZERO PROOF that his decision to leave was genetic or my parents decision to push me were genetic. Maybe it was something in his environment that changed his mind. Are you seeing a pattern here? You're making co-relations without proof. That's not methodology and that's not science.

Why did they push you so hard, instead of telling you to blame everything on whitey like so many black families I’ve seen?

You obviously haven't seen enough. You're white, so you're allowed the ignoranace. The "Blame whitey" langauge doesn't leave a minority's thought process with an increase in IQ. Depending on who you talk to in the high IQ range of minorites it might actually intensify.

It is common fact that whites have a history of unminding others' cultures and branding people inferior without any proof.  The entire colonization of Africa was built on the concept that they were genetically inferior- remember this was before a time of IQ tests. You think the problem with black people is that ALL of them are blaming whitey for everything. I'm sure some of them are, a vast majority of them though...eh not anymore than a poor white bum would "blame whitey". There are other factors involved. Factors that you continously ignore because they break down your world view.

naturally dumb people often throw away their opportunities, maybe without even knowing it.  We don’t know why this is.  Maybe it takes a good deal of introspection to be able to see the long view of things, that possibly it’s much better to concern yourself with building your own life, planning for the future, rather than trying to just take it when you need it.

But none of this really corelates to intelligence does it? I'd like some proof that this is so. This "longview" doesn't guarantee one a job as a quantam enginneer. I want to see proof that (A) these people are irreversibly stupid on a genetic level and (B) that the decisions that they make are because of genetics.

"Just look at them!" or "Just think about it!" isn't methodology, it isn't science and this is why your argument is referred to as the "psuedo science."

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