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I'm not a racist, but I am...

Name: Anonymous 2005-12-06 1:18

This forum is full of it, but it's all true. The facts are there. Maybe there is a little hyperbole, sure black people can become doctors, fly planes etc... I'm a reasonable human being, I was raised in a liberal environment. I have bullied before, but never been racist and I see bigotry as immature, however I can't escape the fact that they are indeed very unusual looking.

http://unicast.org/forums/forum.php?forum_id=1

"golly, niggers are hideous with their buck teeth, black skin and brillo heads. Egads."

Just do a google search for skull shapes of different races and albino black people... CAucasian and mongoloid skulls are about the same and both these races have obviously exceeded negrito races in culture and civilisation. Even the obscure native americans constructed early civilisations. Their hunter gatherers tribes only existed due to their isolation, deprived of the circumstnaces that allow for agrarian civilisation. Given another 1000 years after the SPanish arrived, and the Gulf of Mexico would be like the Mediteranean circa 1000 B.C..

Though I can't say the same for black civilisations, they were not isolated, theywere exposed to the Egyptians, who were arabic, im not one of these nuts who thinks they are white. I really am not a racist or even a far right conservative...

I can't contain what i think anymore and I shouldn't be afraid of expressing my thoughts. They do look so animal like, it is as if they are a relic from evolution before human civilisation. In fact that's what they are, the only tribal systems outside of sub-saharran africa left by around 1300 were in areas which didn't have much food. Yet in the rich jungles of africa they still lived in the stone age, never utilising the wide range of plants there.

I think the out of africa theory is correct and that blacks haven't evolved much whilst caucasians and mongoloids have had to deal with the ice age.

How should I approach these facts rationally? Liberals say I should just ignore them, conservatives say I should become a whtie supremacist nut. Surely there is another way? Surely there is a way to get society to accept these facts without sinking into depths of paranoia and stupidity.

Name: Anonymous 2006-01-09 16:05

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Even discussing that there might be a genetic component to intelligence is taboo.  To even do a study that controls for all socio-economic factors (even among black kids say, raised with white parents) is considered racist, so it's never been done. 

It's because people are afraid of the result.  Because they know, even through all the propaganda like what you post, that the results might not be all that heartening.

In fact, I actually understand why you think what you do.  Because it's so easy to believe that your capabilities are not hardwired, that there's some x-factor that might make you or anyone you know as special as Einstein.  I understand why you do mental gymnastics to keep believing the way you do, and it really shows in your debating style.

The fact is that the data just doesn't exist, even though most people (And I'm sure you yourself have inklings of it too) know in their heart that it's probably true.  The data doesn't exist because nobody wants to be the one to bring that news to the world, because most people who could do that kind of study are smart enough to see where it will lead.

And so people construct elaborate explanations, to show that africans (and don't muddle my definition, you know exactly which group I'm talking about) have always sort of floundered, and in recent history they have really begun to stink.

Most societies, when bordering more advanced ones tend to learn from the more advanced ones, to take what they have that works and use it to strengthen themselves, regardless of culture.  You can see it in rome, ancient china, everywhere. They borrow governments, writing systems, ETC...  You can see it happening now in India and throughout southern asia.  They are borrowing our industrial ideas, strengthening themselves, and coming up to par with us.  Even immigrants forcably brought to other countries and treated as low class citizens after a generation or two (in fact, almost immediately after being given the same recognition under the law as anyone else) rise to compete with their former opressors.

But africa isn't doing this, and africans brought to this country aren't, and there's a physical reason.  Maybe it isn't intelligence, maybe intelligence isn't all that important in the long run.  But there is something.

In fact, you know what?  I think people like you actually have a use in this world.  I think that maybe calling attention to this might be a bad thing, might lead to certain, em, things happening...  Whenever people see a problem or a weakness, their first drive is to fix it.  This might be by pouring aid into africa, or it might mean genocide.  I don't believe that fixing every "problem" is a good idea, because it might lead to worse problems. 

So yeah, I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise, you can keep on with your overly complicated theories to circumvent simple patterns, and in private I'll support your efforts. 

But at least I and a handful of other people can hold onto what's true, no matter how painful it is.

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