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I'm not a racist, but I am...

Name: Anonymous 2005-12-06 1:18

This forum is full of it, but it's all true. The facts are there. Maybe there is a little hyperbole, sure black people can become doctors, fly planes etc... I'm a reasonable human being, I was raised in a liberal environment. I have bullied before, but never been racist and I see bigotry as immature, however I can't escape the fact that they are indeed very unusual looking.

http://unicast.org/forums/forum.php?forum_id=1

"golly, niggers are hideous with their buck teeth, black skin and brillo heads. Egads."

Just do a google search for skull shapes of different races and albino black people... CAucasian and mongoloid skulls are about the same and both these races have obviously exceeded negrito races in culture and civilisation. Even the obscure native americans constructed early civilisations. Their hunter gatherers tribes only existed due to their isolation, deprived of the circumstnaces that allow for agrarian civilisation. Given another 1000 years after the SPanish arrived, and the Gulf of Mexico would be like the Mediteranean circa 1000 B.C..

Though I can't say the same for black civilisations, they were not isolated, theywere exposed to the Egyptians, who were arabic, im not one of these nuts who thinks they are white. I really am not a racist or even a far right conservative...

I can't contain what i think anymore and I shouldn't be afraid of expressing my thoughts. They do look so animal like, it is as if they are a relic from evolution before human civilisation. In fact that's what they are, the only tribal systems outside of sub-saharran africa left by around 1300 were in areas which didn't have much food. Yet in the rich jungles of africa they still lived in the stone age, never utilising the wide range of plants there.

I think the out of africa theory is correct and that blacks haven't evolved much whilst caucasians and mongoloids have had to deal with the ice age.

How should I approach these facts rationally? Liberals say I should just ignore them, conservatives say I should become a whtie supremacist nut. Surely there is another way? Surely there is a way to get society to accept these facts without sinking into depths of paranoia and stupidity.

Name: Anonymous 2005-12-22 9:00

I'm not going to magically conform to the idea that genetics is MORE important than environment nor the idea that blacks are genetically inferior until-

That was never in debate. Reread >>144 a few times, and point out where I laid claim that blacks will score lower, nor that they are inferior. Did you even read what I wrote? This is right there at the very end.

What is in debate is your assertion that "given equal conditions- a black child and a white child will score the same on any wide ranging IQ tests". Again, this is similar to what John Watson claimed. No, not all people are equal, and given the exact same education, upbringing, and opportunities, it's unlikely they'll score the same. Or maybe they will, but how do you know?

The role that nuture plays is more prevalent.

Oh, so now you acknowledge that genes have a role to play?

I noticed that you glared over the savant question.

I would have thought it supports heredity, particularly in the idiot savant case. Are you claiming that an idiot savant studies an inhuman amount of <whatever>? Some of them can do things even bright but normal people cannot.

Since we're on the topic of examples, if I gave you a down syndrome baby, do you think you could turn him or her into a world-recognized expert on some medical topic given the correct environment?

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