Pick Your Society...

To all of those that have bitched about every single point I've made in any given thread, I pose this idea to you.

I'm not asking what type of society you would necessarily like to live in yourself, because that's a rather double-edged answer for a lot of you I'd imagine, being that this board is mainly leftist.

So... Build your ideal society, as honestly as possible. What type of people would you want in your society? What type of government? What style of economy? Would you want productive members in your society, or people that simply live off of the efforts of others? Would you want the government to control every aspect of peoples' lives, or do you actually value freedom? Free enterprise, the biggest eliminator of poverty in the history of mankind? Or fascism... I'm sure most of you liberals are already bitching that my questions are too black and white. So you pick your grays. Make your ideal society.

Have at it... I hope it's not too much to ask for some actual honest responses here.

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I am not a state. I am not a community, I am not a people, I am an individual. Nations, communities, groups, these things are subjective concepts only comprised only by the collective permission of objective individuals... If it is an individual's will to worry about the state of his fellow man, then let him make that choice if it makes him happy; and this, I believe, is man's only moral obligation: his own happiness. Whatever a man may wish for, whether he says it's for himself or for others, the result of his wishes are always for his own wishes, be they subjective or objective.
I can have no sympathy for anyone regardless of what situation they are born into. It's pointless. The best thing you can do for them is hope they have the will to get out of the situation themselves of their own efforts, by any means necessary.
If you're hungry, grow food, kill food, or walk until you're in a place with more food. If you're considered to be in "poverty", then obviously there are people in a better condition than you. Do what you have to to get there, if you have any value for your own life and your own happiness. If you live in a corrupt and absolutist government, then run for the border if you value freedom. If you get shot in the back, then consider yourself a person of better fate than the suckers who got left behind... There's no excuse. Those who make excuses rather than take action are the ones that go hungry, and let themselves stay in poverty, and let themselves be controlled by horrible governments.

I should care for them simply because they're human? If they don't take advantage of what MAKES THEM HUMAN, then I have no more sympathy for them than I would the bugs I might step on by accident walking down the street... Everything I've just said is an objective truth in our objective universe. Subjective excuses won't change the facts.