Are we all left-tards here?

Come on now.  Are we?  While I myself wouldn't look for bible-thumping republicans, I think we should at least have a few moderates or radicals like libertarians ETC... 

Or is it the disproportionate european population here?

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Well, the point is that you're allowed to invest it as you see fit, or to let certain agencies that would specialize in that do it for you on commission if you're not some stock market genious.  Guess I didn't specify that.

And your economic arguments stem from the theory that debt is a good thing for some people to have...  Well, look at our own national deficit.

I don't care about being a "nanny state." What I care about is the baldface theft that exists in our current system...  The way politicians dip into social security funds for their own purposes, and the way you don't <i>actually</i> (how the hell do I do itallics on world4ch already?) get out what you put in.