Chivalry and Feminism

"I. To live one's life so that it is worthy of respect and honor by all.
1.Fair Play
Never attack an unarmed foe.
Never charge an unhorsed opponent.
Never attack from behind
Avoid cheating
Avoid torture

2.Nobility
Exhibit self-discipline
Show respect to authority
Obey the law
Administer justice
Administer mercy
Protect the innocent
Respect women

3.Valor
Exhibit courage in word and deed
Avenge the wronged
Defend the weak and innocent
Fight with honor
Never abandon a friend, ally, or noble cause

4.Honor
Always keep one's word of honor
Always maintain one's principles
Never betray a confidence or comrade
Avoid deception
Respect life

5.Courtesy
Exhibit manners
Be polite and attentive
Respectful of host, authority, honor, and women

6.Loyalty
To God, Sovereign, Country, and the codes of Chivalry
Always respect and obey the law unless the law is wrongful
Always be kind and never cruel
Give mercy to those that ask for it
Always be truthful and never lie
Defend the Law of Good, and seek to stop injustice
Have compassion to the weak, frail, and oppressed, and seek to help them in any way
Be charitable to others and give to those in need
Always succor women when they are in distress
Love your country, family, religion, and uphold them in any way
Always put the needs of others above the needs of yourself
Live a pure and noble life."


I think that the family is the core of society, and chivalry is the core of the famliy. But modern feminism is now about teaching women, and men as well, that men are neither needed or wanted. I think feminism in that manner is getting way out of hand. There's plenty of single parent families, which is hard on the mom and the kids, because men are no longer taught the responsiblity that is their due. It's like ppl don't have their dignity any more...

So called "roles" in the family are getting turned around to where the woman is the worker, and the man stays at home. While I'm not 100% aginst this idea, I think that it isn't a woman's responsibility to perform that kind of role. Why? If anyone hasn't figured it out yet, men and women are different, and they are built to perform diffrent tasks that the other COULD do, but wouldn't necissarily be suited for. Of course the majority of women are capable of everything their husbands are, but does it mean that they should? Of course not. It just wouldn't be as productive. Sure, you can drive a nail in a wall with a wrench, but does that mean that it should be used like that?

What're everyone else's oppinions on this? Are any of you feminists that are aginst men being merciful to women just because they are women? Or are you gentlemen/ladies that are more accepting of this?

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Ah, see but the thing is: You are, in fact, part of a cult mentality if you're sitting there defending an ideal that would take mechanisms of nazi-like nationalism, facism and totalitarianism to put into real practice. These are unavoidable facts- so to keep yourself from losing you resort to the "us or them"/"black or white"/"evil or good" bi-polarizing of thought. It a typical dividing tactic used by "liberals" and "conservatives".

Human thought evolved away from singularities and we are now evolving away from bi-polarities. This is why your argument is inherantly wrong, to me. Because I'm able to call bullshit on your entire approach to this subject from the get-go. It's indefensible- so you do is what all liberals and conversatives do-- claim the other is on the "wrong side". Reduce everything to philosophical, psychological and political fork in the road so as to frame and control the entire argument.

In the end, you never address the real issue or the point brought up: "You indirectly advocating facism through eugenics". Instead we get sucked into a conservative vs liberal debate. You can't help yourself- it's like you have zero control over your ability to reason.

If that's not cult-like, then I guess you guys(libs/cons) must've snuck in and changed the context and connotation of the word.