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Name: lunatic 2005-09-07 23:31

the morality and relational well-being of mankind cannot be reconciled through the means of politics.  This does not mean no government
is needed.

"The problems that exist in the world today cannot be solved
    by the level of thinking that created them."

in any case, any chapter of history since the dawn of time ought
to suffice as either proof or evidence.

discuss

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-17 11:31

>>38

I never claimed that industrial products will double in cost and time, I claimed that many processes in industrial products will (at least) double in cost (which is a measurement of time). The reason why I believe this is because some of my courses at university are with people whose day-job is in polymer research, and they keep telling us how important synthetic petroleum-products are, while simultaneously telling us how expensive synthetic petroleum-products are. Having taken a lot of economics courses, I find that conjunction frightening. :P

But as far as sources, here you go:

(Congressional Budget Office: Rising Price of Fuel)
http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=5225&sequence=0

(Thailand Board of Investment: Rising Price of Rubber)
http://www.boi.go.th/english/how/press_releases_detail.asp?id=440

(Baltimore Sun: Price of Oil relative to Price of Synthetic)
http//www.baltimoresun.com/...

(International Scientific Conference on Animal Meal: Soaring Price of Synthetic Amino Acids: "Why is this relevant you may ask?" Because bio-productive sectors use tremendous quantities of plastics for which there is no cheap synthetic replacement... they are *already* feeling the crunch of the end of the oil age)
http://europa.eu.int/comm/dgs/health_consumer/events/event02/eco_en.html

(International Association For Energy Economics: They predict the point at which synthetic carbon-based fuels will become cheaper than organic ones. Their guess? 8 times more than the price of oil in 1984, or something like 4 times more than what it is now)
http://www.iaee.org/documents/vol_5(3).pdf

(Automotive Digest: A graph showing how the price of giving an oil change has been continually increasing while the price it is SOLD at has not, destroying the profit margin of mechanics.)
http://www.automotivedigest.com/research/research_results.asp?sigstats_id=570

I have about a dozen more sources, so when you get done with those let me know.

Also, I'd like to appeal to common sense: it costs more to make something than to dredge something out of the ground. Why? Because that something had to have been made at some point. Not necessarily by people, but perhaps by natural processes. Why is that thing under ground? Because it took tremendous, geological amounts of time to make it. Therefore, I would think that a rational person would guess we're left with 3 alternatives: making X is very slow, making X is very expensive, finding X is fast and cheap.

When you can no longer find X... prices for everything involved with X will go up.

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