Well... unfortionatly, even with Moot's best efforts, I can already see a thread full of "omg bush suxorz..." ect.
Well, for once, I'm going to head it all off. Since this place is SO new, I'm going to do something unheard of... I'm making this a Pro Bush thread.
Yes, you heard me right. I voted for Bush. I am 19 years old, and I am very aware of the issues. I plan to vote all my life. Bush's tax cuts helped my family and partially allowed me to go to college. I wish he would drop the whole "amnisty for illegals", but, I doubt he will. I think he handled Sept 11th with a quiet grace. While I know he is prone to make mestakes when speaking, I'd like to see someone who hasn't. The fact that he is so soft spoke, yet so smart, greatly impresses me. He served his country, in a different way that Kerry. However, he did more than Clinton did, so he gets points with me.
So... I could continue listing things that make me like thus guy, but frankly, I'd like to find some people who agree with me. Yes yes, I know people exist who's life goal has been to humiliate the man, but lets hear from the people who actually like him. Obviously, more than half the country does...
Anyway, I don't know if I should be bold enough to keep this a pro bush thread, or give in to the fact that probably, this thread will turn into a mix of good and bad. But just, try to keep it civil.
And... no talk of killing him. As much as you hate the guy, there is no reason to want to kill him. Don't use that type of anger here.
-Tarage
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Anonymous2005-01-05 14:48
At least alcohol and cigarrets are good for the economy... well, yes, you're talking bullshit.
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Anonymous2005-01-05 14:55
If you give the tax out to the poor they'll spend it on booze and drugs.
Sure, but if you stick it to the rich too much, they'll leave, and take their investing elsewhere. Then how will great ideas be realized?
Not that I like the rich or anything...
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Anonymous2005-01-20 23:37
Rich have great ideas? Where?
Of course I agree the rich shouldn't be given a raw deal, but I think some people give them too much credit as well. What do you think is more productive, a division of 66 engineers or Carly Fiorina?
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Anonymous2005-01-22 8:32
>>47
46 means that without money from angel investors, we'd see less great ideas being realised. Not that the rich people have the great ideas - but that they have the money to make them possible.
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Anonymous2005-01-22 22:23 (sage)
That may be true, although if the rich didn't have the majority of wealth that would mean everyone else would have it. But that doesn't answer the question either, does it?
What do you think is more productive, a division of 66 engineers or Carly Fiorina?
i have yet to see anyone sensibly argue pro-bush without resorting to "OMG! you LIBERAL o.O" style-responses to any arguments brought against what they said.
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Anonymous2005-01-27 12:04
>>50
This is true, but then again, American politics is about 95% name-calling and only about 5% actual issues, ne? Not that America is unique in this regard.
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Anonymous2005-04-01 0:44 (sage)
INTERNET ARGUMENT!!!
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Anonymous2007-06-22 1:01 ID:+cARcRyj
Somehow I get the idea that someone just bumped this thread to make the point that he hasn't read SICP.
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Anonymous2007-06-22 1:10 ID:honCeeB+
we WON!!
yay
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Anonymous2007-06-22 2:52 ID:bCevlOEd
>>11
read "The Grand Chessboard" and you'll understand why the middle east instead of venezuela (check torrentspy for a book torrent)
also find out who the author of that book is, what his career has been, and what his connections are
wow, thank you whoever brought this thing back from the memory hole so we can examine how frightfully duped we've been.
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Anonymous2007-06-22 12:03 ID:lN1BrYt7
ITT we remember a time in which /pol wasn't full of "LOL NIGGER" posts.
Oh wait...
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Anonymous2007-06-22 18:32 ID:2qVD7y/f
>>40
Could that have been possibly any more biased? I don't believe so..
What about all of the families that are working 60+ hours a week to feed their family? I am working my way through college, and I am in debut up to my ears to make it through medical school.. am I not spending my money wisely or am I going to go spend it on alcohol because I would technically considered next to poor? I think not... think before you speak.
>>40
First, simply living is hard for the poor. Sure, some of them are lazy, but most rich asses who were born into wealth are just as bad. To help, welfare should only be available upon passing a urine test for illegal drugs. If they want to spend their cash on booze, I have no problems with that.
Second, shifting taxes away from low income, towards the super-high income, would drastically improve the lives of millions in this country. Especially if the tax money were spend on funding education and conservation, rather than militaristic endeavors to further fill the pockets of the policy-makers.
>>40
Considering that money is the main issue, why not:
>eliminate money
>use the internet to control the flow of goods and services (users can order what ever product or service they want, and it will be linked to their online account(s) and delivered to centralized/personal locations (depends on the nature of the product or service)
>automate the production and distribution process completely
>work will now not consist of repetitive grinding tasks, but more rather creative/information and idea sharing based tasks (Renaissance style)
>people will be encouraged to travel and explore. necessary transportation services will be provided free of charge
>adopt hydrogen fuel cell technology and hemp to its full extent.
>legalize weed
>build underwater cities and go to space
>Venus Project (with some added details)
>????
>profit!
tl;dr : smoke weed, go to space and explore the world and share thoughts and ideas with everyone over the internet for free